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draslajca

where on earth do you find information like this: In Ethnographie des Vilayets d'Adrianople, de Monastir et de Salonique the French newspaper Le Courrier d'Orient had the village listed as having 40 households and a male population of 112 people, all Bulgarian.[1] According to ethnographer Vasil Kanchov in 1900 the village had a population of 340 Bulgarians. [2] The village was within the borders of the Bulgarian Exarchate. The Exarchate secretary Dimitar Mishev, in 1905 the village was inhabited by 360 Bulgarian exarchists and a functioning Bulgarian school. [3] from? do you google it on purpose? lol PMK1 (talk) 11:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What's the problem with it. I saw you had written there's no mention of the village until the XXth century and it's not hard to assume some travellers and ethnographers have come across it earlier. That's the data from them. If you don't like the Bulgarian sources, I don't see what's the problem with the French one. Especially since it's the only data you have for the village from the whole XIXth century. --Laveol T 13:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh no i am not complaining. There are actually very few documents about the village or concerning the actual village not the demographics. There isn't a problem on my behalf but i think some other people will have problems. :) PMK1 (talk) 23:06, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, well rhese are ethnographic studies besides else. I've noticed they have some info on regions, but rarely on a particular village. If I find something interesting, I'll add it, be sure :) --Laveol T 00:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If they have any specific info on villages in the Struga region be sure to let me know. :) PMK1 (talk) 05:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me, but I'll involve in your discussion. PMK1 do you interested in a report by school inspector Ian. Derebanov from 1907 about some villages in Struga region (Radozhda, Kalishta, Vlaj, Zagrachani, Veэchani, Mesheishta etc.), published in Етнография на Македония. Извори и материали в два тома, т. 2, София 1992, с.70-76? If you interested, I can scan and send it.--JSimin (talk) 17:42, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

VANDALISM

“Laveol”, “Miskin” and “Kryston”, all probably biased by their eventual Greek or Macedonian (FYROM) origins, obviously working in concert, permanently vandalise the page of Seleucid Empire removing from the Macedonian empire of Alexander the Great its "Macedonian" designation. We need an arbitration.Draganparis (talk) 11:54, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, they do not. This is a content dispute and no vandalism. On the other hand continuosly accusing other users of vandalism with no reason at all, might lead to sanction. Please, bear it in mind. --Laveol T 18:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Intimidations? Wow, wonderful. Dear friend, this is the first time that I claimed “vandalism” in the last 5 years. I observed the ridiculous thing: that a group of 5-7 people systematically remove denomination “Macedonian” from the Hellenistic sites of any kind. Hellenism is cultural term, invented by Droysen, German historian (who hardly used it in his 19 century book that had couple editions then, and has been printed only in German, last edition is in 3 tomes) but was quickly extended to cover all what could belong to kind of Greek culture mixed with oriental elements during the Macedonian empire of Alexander the Great and later. I am certain that you know this. The Roman Empire carried it further as Roman cultural heritage. Of course it was imported from (today’s territorial) Greece, and Rome was in that sense fully Hellenised. We are all also in that, now quite irrelevant sense, Hellenised. That group, where you, as I believe, belong too, do not care about Hellenisation of the Western culture, but care very much about a kind of transfer of Hellenism to today Hellenic Republic and all terribly complicated “salad” of political confusion. The term is used as a political term to describe political aspect of Macedonian political states (kingdoms) of Diadochi and to influence today's political disputes, describing it as identical with todays Greece. THIS CONFLICTS MUST BE REMOVED FROM WIKIPEDIA. This is what I hold for important, and you, if you would like to do decent job on this wonderful site of Wikipedia, should help to stop with systematic removal of the “Macedonian” reference from the history pages and should not act as you do. Thanks. Draganparis (talk) 10:19, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Exodus of Ethnic Macedonians from Greece

An article that you have been involved in editing, Exodus of Ethnic Macedonians from Greece, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Exodus of Ethnic Macedonians from Greece. Thank you. Avg (talk) 20:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In Answer to your Question

Seeing what you did for the Wikiproject, I can't help it, but ask - how did you become so fascinated with our country? It's obviously cause of the nature, but still I'd really like to know. Outside opinions always sound more convincing ;) --Laveol T 13:45, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Причина поради която аз проявих интерес към Wikiprojectта е просто защото аз съм Българин. До колгото става въпрос за външно мнение живея в Великобритания вече десетолетие, но нада ли това важи. —Preceding unsigned comment added by P.Marlow (talk • contribs) 19:08, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I often go back to Bulgaria to visit my parents and brother. I do live and work here, however I might retire back home. The fishing is much better there than in the UK :). —Preceding unsigned comment added by P.Marlow (talk • contribs) 19:12, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

??

I dont see a problem with the image? you?Vlatko (talk) 23:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I told you - there should be no image. Especially a one that is undoubtedly Macedonian (that's sarcasm, sorry, I can't help it). Just go ahead and read the relevant talkpage. --Laveol T 23:35, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I think that there is nothing to be read, please be honest to your self. There is no need for explanation, the image stays. Vlatko (talk) 00:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Huh, who put you in charge of Wikipedia? I told you - read the talkpage, this was discussed extensively in the course of several months. Two admins are behind the decision. If you want to ask them why go to their respective talkpages - User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise or User talk:Moreschi. --Laveol T 00:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
None, this takes you in respect. If it was on your charge, an would image be standing there?Vlatko (talk) 00:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There was a vote and I voted for the current flag. --Laveol T 00:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I sow, and it is a suspicious one (even too stupid - a voting for a picture, silly). I don't see this as a game. Is there something wrong with the picture I put. And what is wrong for a picture to be there?Vlatko (talk) 00:55, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Tell me what exactly is depicted in the picture? --Laveol T 00:56, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And you need an explanation? Your last action one the stub concludes this talk. Great character. Vlatko (talk) 01:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it should be deleted. There are other stub-templates that deal with this. Why do you need a one specifically for the region? I mean why, besides the obvious reasons (sarcasm again). --Laveol T 01:07, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is neutral, it points the region in any concern, as it is, regardless separative connectivity intentions.Vlatko (talk) 01:10, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ummm, I don't think the last sentence had any sense. Sorry, I don't automatically Asume good faith, but I saw your comments about how the region was once United etc and I don't see any good intentions behind it. Oh, and what about the lion - what is it? --Laveol T 01:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In which way does this all concerns you? Vlatko (talk) 01:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It obviously does since I'm writing to you. Will you answer the question? --Laveol T 01:18, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you need an answer, you already know the meaning of the lion as a symbol. Your intentions? Vlatko (talk) 01:21, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, have a nice evening/night, then. Bye :) --Laveol T 01:24, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

obqsnenie

vish maina, az nqmam nishto shreshtu bylgarite. dazhe, mnogo ot nai-dobrite mi priqteli sa bylgari, i vseki pyt kato napisha neshto gadno za bylgarite tuk, sled tova se chustvam vinoven shoto sam obidil i moite priqteli.. no mnogo se iznervqm ot anti-makedonskiq nacionalizam na povecheto bylgari tuk. ne mozhem li prosto da namerim kompromis? Capricornis (talk) 02:10, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You really amaze me

I always wanted a dog to follow me everywhere. You are a good boy. ;-)Vlatko T 22:10, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Ethnographie des Vilayets d'Adrianople, de Monastir et de Salonique, 1978, pp. 102-103
  2. ^ Kanchov, Vassil, "Ethnography and statistics, Sofia, 1900
  3. ^ D.M.Brancoff. "La Macédoine et sa Population Chrétienne". Paris, 1905, р.162-163.
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