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It use SOCK_RAW in programming.

int sock = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_RAW, IPPROTO_RAW);Windows?I'm pretty sure the "no workaround" FUD is wrong: you can run the windows versions of "pcap" etc no problems (granted - there's a lot of system-level driver stuff needed to make it work - but that's the _definition_ of a "workaround", isn't it? :-) 203.206.137.129 (talk) 02:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]Non-black-hat usesAre there any? --Taejo|대조 13:37, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]You can learn alot of how TCP/IP works, by playing with raw sockets. Raw sockets is pretty cool, because it allows you to craft your own packets. -- Frap 13:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply] There's also things like ping, which use ICMP, and need access to packet headers. Raw sockets can only be used by root, of course (or any user with CAP_NET_RAW, I think). Is that right? — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 07:11, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]Raw sockets on Linux... and everything elseTook out this:Raw sockets are still available in the Linux operating system.This is true, of course, but why talk about Linux? Because it's the favorite antagonist of Windows? As far as I know virtually all BSD-based stacks out there still support raw sockets (possibly subject to privilege requirements), with the notable exception of Windows XP. That is, NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Mac OS X etcetera all still support raw sockets (though they are more or less useful depending on kernel support), and there's nothing remotely special about Linux here. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but then there should at least be more mention of raw sockets on other platforms than just Linux. 82.95.254.249 20:37, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply] I think the article is NPOV and unbalanced to ONLY mention that Windows was critizized for giving access to raw sockets and that Microsoft limited or removed some raw sockets capabilities. (I'm an anti-MS person, and yet I'm saying this.) It would be perfectly fair to mention in a single sentence that (list of operating systems) provide raw socket support. It would also be useful to list operating systems in another sentence that restrict or prohibit raw socket support (are there any?). 99.225.158.180 (talk) 18:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]