Talk:Rakt

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FC Rakt Table

I have added back the table which I do think is notable. Lucian Sunday (talk) 14:06, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The results of a non notable football club do not belong in this article. Don't see the scores of Manchester United or Liverpool in the articles about the 2 cities. BigDuncTalk 16:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Manchester United or Liverpool don't wear skirts. Lucian Sunday (talk) 16:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
FC de Rakt and their skirts are pretty much the only thing this place is known for, therefore the detail is appropriate. ðarkuncoll 17:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Your probably right but we don't need to insert results of this club into the article about the village. BigDuncTalk 17:20, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why would you want to delete them? Lucian Sunday (talk) 17:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Because it is an article about the village not about the football club. BigDuncTalk 17:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As already mentioned, the football club is a notable aspect of the village. Lucian Sunday (talk) 17:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That is not the point this is an article about the village and all it has is one sentence about the village. The article is now about the football club which was deleted twice. BigDuncTalk 17:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The football club is by far the most notable and famous thing in the village. ðarkuncoll 18:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You keep saying this is the only notable thing about the village then how does it meet notability guidelines because the footbal team dont. BigDuncTalk 18:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Even if the football club is the only thing worth talking about regarding the village, the only relevant info to include is the press regarding the skirt thing. Wikipedia is not a collection of statistics. This isn't relevant to the article. Most articles on cities will mention the city's football team, but you won't put the whole team list and results for the current season there. Why not? Because it is simply irrelevant to the article. Please can someone give any decent reason why the info should be included. At the moment the impression I get (from the article and comments here) is that this article is essentially trying to be the deleted FC de Rakt article, just with a little bit about the village so that it passes muster, as villages are deemed inherently notable. Quantpole (talk) 22:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The reason why cities with football teams don't have such info is because those cities are notable for reasons other than their team. This village is different - the only notable thing about it is its team. ðarkuncoll 22:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Template:RFChist To avoid getting further into reverting cycles, I'm asking for outside input. Brief history - FC de Rakt, a football team which received some press coverage because the women's team wore skirts, has been deleted after an AfD. The creator of that article created this article part way through the AfD, as pretty much a copy of the FC de Rakt page, but with a small bit regarding the village. Whilst acknowledging that this article can mention the skirt issue (reliable and verifiable, even if not notable enough for its own article), providing results for the team, and at one point player lists, is completely irrelevant to this article. I honestly don't understand why this is being insisted on by a couple of editors, as it seems such a no-brainer to me. The only thing I can think is so that the article is in effect the old FC de Rakt page, but can sneak under the radar. Quantpole (talk) 23:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the table. I declared merge at the AFD. That option had not been available to some of the earlier voters as this article had not yet then been created. To my mind the relevance is that a team so bad, (they really are apallingly bad- but you only know that if you can see the table) claim to have adopted skirts for footballing reasons. Unfortunately there are no references at present to dispell their claims. The provision of information, ie the table, allows the reader to make up there own mind.

Taking New York as an example there are several sets of statistics in that article including a Sports Table.
This is wikipedia, if editors dont like the balance of the current article they should add something to it. I myself have found information about a cultivar linked to the area. If anyone wishes to help develop that, great. But,if you dont want to improve this article, please dont hang around, go and edit a different article. Lucian Sunday (talk) 06:35, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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