Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carlo Tamagnone

Carlo Tamagnone

Unsourced BLP, no notability established, promotional in tone, etc. This person is an Italian and the Italian Wikipedia deleted the article about him, so why would we have one? DreamGuy (talk) 16:43, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He has zero results on JSTOR, although that's a dabatase heavily weighted towards English. Still, zero results means no one writing in English is even citing his work, and a large majority of major philosophy journals are in English. Hairhorn (talk) 19:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete Not in the itWP, which seemed curious; checking, it was speedy deleted from there a few days ago. [1]. I will assume they know what they are doing. Only one of his books has more than one US/Canda library holding :Ateismo filosofico nel mondo antico -- which has 11. Nothing in google Scholar. No evidence of any academic position. DGG (talk) 00:34, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also deleted from French Wikipedia after a long discussion. See: [2]. Hairhorn (talk) 02:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the edit histories for the various foreign language wiki's look suspicious, per the .fr and .it [3] AFD discussions . In light of his publications (all within the last 8 years) I was going to suggest a merge to Atheist existentialism but with that article's own history and a lack of reliable secondary coverage (google.it searches all come up primary with nothing on scholar or news) I'd have to agree with the nom. – Zedla (talk) 02:36, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - a lack of results in JSTOR is a pretty serious problem for any claim that this man is a notable philosopher. I note the article doesn't state that he has been employed by any university philosophy departments, or been published in any philosophy journals; his books could well be self-published, for all the information about them that's given here. The fact that he's already been deleted on the French and Italian WPs is also a bad sign (although we don't have exactly the same inclusion policies as them). If anyone can provide clear, objective evidence of this man's notability, I'd be prepared to keep, but at the moment it simply isn't there. Robofish (talk) 13:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I see that several of us are referring to the italian deletion. The problem is if it is reliable also “outside Italy”. Well, I think that it is not at all. Italy is a very strange country and I think that we must not to do so, for at least two reasons. The 1rst: it is dominated (like all the others Italian institutions) by the Catholics; the 2nd: in Italy no atheist thinker has the minimal possibility to keep an univeritary chair, being the universities, all, in the hands of Catholics. Not enough, in Italy there are university directly managed by the Vatican and other from institutions to it connected, as the “Catholic” in Milan, Rome and other places. No great publisher would never publish philosophy works of a contemporary atheist, therefore only brave little pubblishers ones make it. Anyway Tamagnone was invited by Radio Vaticana in the November of 2005 to represent the atheists thought versus the christian one; this means that he is considered by the italian atheists the only representative atheist philosopher living and in the same time that Radio Vaticana has agreed to consider it such. I add that in Italy the atheists are hidden, but estimated in 15% of the population, therefore, approximately, 9 million people. Yet, university teacher atheists are 0%, pubblishers hosting atheist essays <1%. Besides, catholic university teachers are about 90% and catholic pubblishers (subordinated to Vatican, CEI, Dioceses, Communion and Liberation, Catholic Action, etc) are at least 70%. The French wikipedia was whrong deleting the article referring the Italian one. We will do it also hier? I hope not. --Uarrin (talk) 06:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Second and recent Italian wikipedia AFD discussion [4] – Zedla (talk) 16:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]