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Government article

This article appears to have been taken directly from http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001056.htm, with the word order and diction just changed around ever-so-slightly. Kinda like plagiarism.

U.S. government sources are public domain. cprompt 23:58, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even so, public domain sources should be cited. Should the gov't article go in "references" (or failing that, to "external links"?)64.252.2.252 20:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Saliva

Is there a connection between viscous saliva and gum disease? -Unknown

Autoimmuine Gingivitis

Someone should add autoimmune gingivitis to this article. This type of gingivitis exists in cats. Wkr, M.

I haven't heard of it, but that is not surprising since I am not a vet! :-P We need someone with that knowledge to write an article on it. Coincidentally, there are many periodontal manifestations of systemic disease in humans, though I am not so certain that is similar to what you are referring to in cats. - Dozenist talk 18:04, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dear M., what you are talking about is called the "Feline Gingivitis/Stomatitis/Pharyngitis Complex". Its precise etiology seems to be unknown. I wrote a German article about it in de.wikipedia.org. You can find it here. Maybe somebody feels like translating/modifying it to/for English? Cheers! -- 80.123.36.165 16:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Injury inflammation

I was told I had gingivitis by my doctor and much of what she told me is reflected in this article. I have my own theories about this, however, because my gums only became enflamed AFTER flossing them. I had not flossed for several weeks beforehand and doing it the night before made them sore and red, or at least, made me notice it due to the pain.

Could it be possible that part of the inflammation is due to aggravation of the gums through aggressive brushing and flossing (not experienced with electric toothbrushes due to their evenness) and that the lack of inflammation of the gums in those who regularly floss may be due to a faster healing response or toughening/thickening of the gums as to not bleed in response to identical cutting force? I feel there might be more than one cause to that inflammation, not just that gums become enflamed with bacteria and thus bleed easier.

Our body tissue becomes stronger to adapt to stress, so why not the mouth? If muscles, tendons, ligaments, and bone, get stronger with weightlifting, why not the gums, bones of the teeth and periodontal ligaments? Tyciol 20:44, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The inflammation is from the plaque and calculus (which are filled mostly with bacteria) residing in the pocket between your tooth and gums, and the consequent immune response from your body to ward off the bacteria. When you floss, you break up the focus of bacteria. Now, if you rarely floss, you are going to bleed when you floss because the gums are already inflamed. In worse infections, the gums will bleed by merely brushing your teeth. In even worse, they bleed spontaneously. Touching your gums with floss in health will not result in their bleeding. I hope that clears things up a bit. - Dozenist talk 21:19, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Diabetes, causes

"Periodotitis has also been linked to diabetes"

"uncontrolled diabetes mellitus increases the risk of gingivitis, due to hormonal changes"

The first statement, first off, may not belong under 'causes' as I feel the wording implies, since it follows that of bacterial infections affecting health, that gingivitis can CAUSE diabetes. If this idea persists based upon associations, the second statement implies that diabetes is a causing factor. While it's possible that they could cause a viscious circle, both aggravating the accompanying condition, I think it more likely that the lower health quality would make inflammation more likely, as I can't see how oral bacterial infections could negatively affect pancreas funciton (type 1) or cause insulin resistance in the body's cells (type 2). I suppose it might, but they can tend to cause a variety of conditions so I'm not sure if experiments have been done to isolate that process. Tyciol 20:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Periodontitis does not cause diabetes. I do not think most anyone is saying that. Periodontitis and diabetes are related because both conditions are linked by an impairment in the function of neutrophils (in particular, their chemotaxis, phagocytosis, and adherence to cell walls). The neutrophil dysfunction is believed to be an important factor in the progression of periodontitis. There has been a movement by some to recognize periodontitis as the 6th complication from diabetes. Even in controlled diabetics, periodontal therapy to correct periodontitis may affect the glucose level, which is why these patients are told to monitor their blood glucose levels closely during treatment and why consultation to the physician treating the diabetes is frequently done. I cannot take much time to respond, but a quick search found me this page on the American Association of Periodontology. - Dozenist talk 21:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Link to pancreatic cancer?

I recall a recent study found a strong link between gingivitis and pancreatic cancer. Should there be some mention in the main article? The article on pancreatic cancer makes mention of this correlation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.75.170.119 (talk) 04:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

It is very painful to live with gingivitis. Many people can not sleep.

Weakened hearts

One point that should be brought up in the article is that gingivitis, like tooth decay and other tooth and mouth diseases, especially on the gums, can increase risks for heart problems. JustN5:12 23:31, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On the alernative medicine reference

I haven't read the article itself, but there's a "disclaimer" on the front page of the site where it's published which I think that invokes further attention to the article itself. --Extremophile 19:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

can gingivitis be passed on orally?

like, through kissing and stuff121.216.119.24 11:52, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Oil Pulling"

I deleted a reference to an alternative medicine therapy called "oil pulling." The WP article on oil pulling deems it on the fringes of even alternative medicine. Moreover, the source article was not reliable (based on a study of 10 people for 45 days) and even notes "There has been no mention of studies on “Oil pulling” in the dental literature."Jedgeco 20:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Calculus

on the fifth paragraph..

When the teeth are not cleaned properly by regular brushing and flossing, bacterial plaque accumulates, and becomes mineralized by calcium and other minerals in the saliva transforming it into a hard material called calculus (tartar) which harbors bacteria and irritates the gingiva (gums)

This is probably supposed to be plaque or something, but it was still calculus for awhile back in history. Can someone examine this? Kronermark (talk) 03:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Prevention

Unless the term is used within the dental field, "dihydrogen monoxide" in the Prevention section is confusing and should be replaced with "water" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.163.171.193 (talk) 04:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's plagiarism involved here somehow

Either by Wikipedia or by another source which I have suspiciously located: http://medical-dictionary-medical.com/index.php?a=term&d=Medical+dictionary&t=Gingivitis . Notice how it is apparently a word for word copy of the Causes section. The site doesn't attribute it to Wikipedia, and the rest of the article is just the section right below causes here, so either that site lifted it from us or someone here lifted it from them. Either way, this seems like trouble. Homestarmy (talk) 02:24, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]