Talk:Revolution 9
The recordings aren't of soccer chants, but of (American) football chants, and I'm changing the page accordingly. I consider myself an afficionado of both sports, and while I have heard the chants of "hold that line" and "block that kick" used in many an American football game (particulary at the high school and college level, where chanting is much more common), I've never heard them once used in a soccer game, in any league, any country, any level. I suppose you could conceivably chant "block that kick" for penalty shots, but I can't even conceive of a situation in which "hold that line" would make any sense at all! Of course, the accents of the chanters are clearly American, and this should tip you off, too. But to lay the matter to rest, see this handy-dandy list of American football cheers. If anyone can find a list of soccer cheers that includes "block that kick" and "hold that line", feel free to change it back.
- You're almost certainly correct since the crowd sounds were taken from the Elektra Sound Effects album set which was produced in the U.S.
Paul is dead.
I've played it backwards with friends and "number nine" does indeed sound like "turn me on dead man", though in a creepy sort of half-distorted way. You kind of have to adjust to hear it that way, but then it pops out at you, like those 3-D pictures that you have to focus on just right to see the image. It's enough of a non-coincidence that I always assumed that it was calculated, or at least a found object that the Beatles knowingly used.
I don't see how the "Paul is dead" thing can be called debunked. On Sgt. Pepper's, for example, there are so many clues that it looks certain that this was all a cool thing the Beatles cooked up, and their denying it to the bitter end is just part of the cool thing. Not a hoax exactly, just a prank that they let the fans in on by letting out info through "back channels." Of course, Paul couldn't be "dead" after they broke up because he wanted to have a career, but why should they ever fess up and spoil it all? But there are too many clues and weirdnesses to deny that there was a stealth "Paul is dead" campaign at least from Sgt. Pepper's to Abbey Road.JimmyTheSaint 21:57, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
- It can be debunked because Paul isn't dead. Wow. That was tough. -Silence 05:46, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- what is the referent of your "it"? the point of the comment is clearly that the clues are real, not Paul's death. as the poster said, it's "not a hoax exactly, just a prank." the poster plainly asserts that the Beatles knowingly pulled this prank, so it's not a hoax that can be debunked. perhaps the confidence in which people proceed to dis and miss the obvious is a symptom of the kind of gullible seeing what you want to see that makes real hoaxes possible.
- The PID history is summarised at http://www.recmusicbeatles.com/public/files/faqs/pid.html. The Beatles had nothing to do with it.