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Hihi

At the risk of sounding like an idiot, how to I create another Cholo page for the excellent Firebird video game from the 1980s of the same name?

http://www.1984.org.uk/gspeccy.php?game=cholo.z80&name=Cholo&text=cholo

Game playable there in java form, also visible cover artwork if anyone wondered what the other use of it was -.o;

Thanks

Hideki 04:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't believe there's a page for cholos, but no page for vatos.

Then make one, vato. ¡No es muy difícil! And be sure to put it on Wiktionary too. Diderot 14:10, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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Chicanos did not start California's first gangs. The first documented urban gang in California was the Sydney Ducks in 19th century San Francisco, made up of Australians of presumably English and Irish ancestry. Even the first gang in northeastern Los Angeles, the Sunset Boys, was not a Chicano nor a Mexican-American gang. However, Chicano gangs managed to survive over the decades while the early Anglo and other white gangs died off (as did early African-American and Asian-American gangs). It would be more appropriate to say that the Chicano gangs are California's oldest gangs, not the first gangs.

Interesting assertion. It is somewhat debatable depending on one's definition of an urban gang but interesting nonetheless. I would remind that not all documented reports are an accurate reflection of a truth or the reality of a society's history. It's a good idea for anyone wishing to contribute to the definition of "cholo" in this article to keep in mind, that, the most common user of the term "cholo" in America today and most specifically Los Angeles is the cholo himself. Despite the assertion that the "first documented urban gang" in S.F. and the "Sunset Boys" in Northeast L.A. were the first gangs in California, and that neither was associated with Chicanos or "mestizos", I would also remind that the main intent of this article is to describe what a cholo is. In this reagrd, it is not important to discuss which ethnicity groups had the first gangs in California; especially since, it is rather certain that any "non-mestizos" of California's distant past were very unlikely to be using the word cholo at all. Cityside Seraph 3/1/06

Chile and Argentina

I'm changing the part that says "Although in Chile and Argentina 'cholo' is rarely..." because some of this is not true of argentina. Refer to the article and discussion in the spanish wikipedia. --cholo 21:14, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

White/Amerindian Concerns

it says in the part about the type of Cholos that are Native americans who adopt the Hispano/Mestizo culture to become Cholos. I was wondering, would a american kid with Irish,Portuguese, and Native American descent be able to accept a new identity as a Mestizo ? can anyone tell me? - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.194.150.6 (talk) 06:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Si, lean like a Cholo. Listen to your corazon if you feel like a cholo then you are; keep those elbows up (side to side)! 64.118.223.249 (talk) 03:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spaniard Chola

in Spain, chola is a name for penis. (chola, pijo, pijote, pija, picha, pichina, polla, rabo, pito...) 212.97.181.220 11:08, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chamizo

What is a chamizo? Should there be an article for this term? 68.164.94.85 13:12, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SOUTH WEST CHOLOS 13

These are gang member mainly around the Bellare Blvd, Hilcroft, Glenmont, Green Park, West park,Town Park st & Alief houston areas. There rivel enemys are La Primera, La Trecera Crips, MS 13, Surenos, Bloos, Sppl. La Primera also known as LP are trying to take over the SWC hood but they cant because they are pussys. they do drive-bys and thats is fuck la primera . South west cholos controling and ruling. No 1 takes over our hoods!

Correct Representation of Sources

The first citation includes the following, ostensibly supporting, quote:

"Al hijo de negro y de india, o de indio y de negra, dicen mulato y mulata. A los hijos de éstos llaman cholo; es vocablo de la isla de Barlovento; quiere decir perro, no de los castizos (raza pura), sino de los muy bellacos gozcones; y los españoles usan de él por infamia y vituperio.""

What this source says is misrepresented. It does not say that cholo meant a cross between a mestizo and an Indian; it says that a cholo is a person of mixed Indian and Negro ancestry two or more generations after the mixing occurred. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hadding (talk • contribs) 04:25, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fashion stereotypes

This section looks like the antithesis of an encyclopedic entry. I think it should edited or removed altogether. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.87.1.170 (talk) 18:46, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cholo in Ecuador

In Modern usage

  Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador

The last paragraph should be changed from:

The term as used in Ecuador is supposedly a neutral term to designate the human groups described above. It may be used, however, following the colonial Spanish manner of speech as a pejorative term to disparage someone as being a member of the "lower class", a designation historically associated and usually reserved to maintain in check the social status of those of greater Amerindian admixture.

to:

The term as used in Ecuador is supposedly a neutral term to designate the human groups described above. It is mostly used, however, following the colonial Spanish manner of speech as a pejorative term to disparage someone as being a member of the "lower class", a designation historically associated and usually reserved to maintain in check the social status of those of greater Amerindian admixture.