Talk:Swarm intelligence

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Prey

Has anyone read Michael Crichton's Novel Prey? There are some interesting propositions regarding the way that a swarm might learn complex behavior based on basic preditor-prey heuristics. The biggest problem I see with swarm intelligence learning complex behavior, however, is that the smaller the agent is, the less capability it has to internalize and recognize the environment. Dennett refers to creatures that can do this Popperian. What evidence is there that swarms perform Popperian functions, and what is the possibility that this might be possible?

Interesting

The universe seems to be arranged in hierarchies. There are various levels at which you can understand it. The level we are most famililar with is the level of everyday life. Going down we run into the levels of organs, cells, molecular biology, chemistry. Each level has its own laws which work in certian "special cases" with all violations at the "extreams". Complex Adaptive Swarms exhibit similar layered behavior also, at each layer the swarm is made of smaller complex adaptive systems. This layered behavior doesn't appear in swarms made of simple systems. This all seems to imply that either there is no bottom to the layers of the universe(and no TOE) or, the bottom layer is made of smart, adaptive particles.--SurrealWarrior 18:15, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Why are the ants gone?

I liked that picture. Was it somehow not appropriate for the article?—GraemeMcRae^talk 19:17, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

references in popular culture

Although they might be related to SI, I would find more appropriate to move this list to the AI article

researchers list

The list is not exhaustive and it contains no useful information. People interested in SI may find useful links to research groups. People interested in the work of a person will first look at her/his personal page, not this article.

Agreed. There's a reason why this is the only article I've seen where such a list exists -- it isn't particularly helpful. Perhaps it might justify it's existence if it wasn't primarily composed of red links... --Xanthine 16:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree too

I'm not sure then that we should keep any name. What was the criteria to remove some and leave others. There are some names in the list that are clearly not as important to the field as others that were there. I say the whole section needs to go. If I don't hear from anyone against I'll remove this list soon.

I might want to add, that the Micheal O'Neill that is linked to is not the Michael O'Neill who is doing SI.

Zerg

I'm removing the zerg reference in the article, since the zerg do not fall into "swarm intelligence" category. As stated in the article, in game reality they are centrally controlled (overmind/cerebrate) as they are in real life (game interface). 201.213.16.47 18:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

COI and possible reference spam

These were added without any corresponding change to content by User:Ajithabraham [1]

Stigmergic Optimization, in Abraham, Grosan and Ramos (Eds.), Studies in Computational Intelligence, Springer Verlag, Germany, pages 300, ISBN: 3-540-34689-9, 2006.
Swarm Intelligence in Data Mining, by A. Abraham, Crina Grosan and Vitorino Ramos (Eds.), Studies in Computational Intelligence, Springer Verlag, Germany, pages 270, ISBN: 3-540-34955-3, 2006 (Preface and foreword by James Kennedy]).

Is there any reason to include them? --Ronz 02:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I aggree with Ronz, "orphen" references do not bring any interest, just more noise--Jbw2 18:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think we shouldn't remove them if these links could bring some more information (links to be assessed), but I suggest to move them from "reference" section to "External links". --Jbw2 18:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The links probably don't meet WP:EL nor WP:SPAM. The books might be listed in a Further reading section though, without the links. --Ronz 19:09, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good reference

http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0707/feature5/index.html

Mathiastck 21:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

its been proposed that Flocking (behavior) be merged with this. I had never seen teh term Swarm intelligence used, but saw lots of use of Flocking in animation. Mathiastck 23:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That merge proposal at Talk:Flocking (behavior) was in December 2004! I imagine the situation has changed since then... ;) Clearly related, but separate topics. --Quiddity 00:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Movie reference incorrect

I believe Boids was used to generate swarms of penguins for Batman in 1992, so this looks to be incorrect. Any reference?

Metaheuristics, not algorithms

Particle Swarm Optimization (PSO) and Ant Colony Optimization (ACO) are not algorithms but metaheuristics. The title of Section 2 should be changed.SDas 04:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete section on Stochastic diffusion search

Stochastic diffusion search is a relatively unknown metaheuristic in comparison to ACO and PSO which have witnessed huge interest recently by theoreticians as well as practising scientists and engineers.

I strongly suggest removing it, and enhancing the section on PSO and ACO instead. SDas 04:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If the info it contains is true and relevant to the article, then I see no reason to remove it. The article could state that it is of lesser importance than the other algorithms. NerdyNSK 03:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, provided we have reliable sources and are not giving it undue weight or otherwise treating it in an unbalanced manner. --Ronz 03:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Links

The article could benefit, I think, with some more links. For example, it is necessary to link the word pheromone in the article, because readers may have no idea what this is. Years and names of organisations (eg NASA) should be linked as well. NerdyNSK 22:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, I agree. My reversal was due to the fact that some wikilinks led to unrelated pages (like Wang for example), and some referenced obviously trivial subjects. I think we can safely assume that a person reading on Swarm Intelligence is familiar with concepts of nature, point, surface, movie, mathematics, clapping, etc :) On other hand pheromone and, for example, combinatorial are less trivial and therefore are good candidates for linking. Alex Pankratov 22:20, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Business applications

The article can be improved by discussing the business applications of swarm intelligence and related algorithms (which what I research for my MSc). Anyone objecting this for any reason? NerdyNSK 22:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jing Wang: Help needed

I need help in researching about Jing Wang and writing an article on him. NerdyNSK 03:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hive mind

I don't see it in the history... has anyone decided that Orson Scott Card's 1985 book Ender's Game is worth adding to the pop culture heading? The plot includes hive-mind battle tactics by insect-like aliens. Binksternet 07:17, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Empire of the Ants?

Does H. G. Welles' Empire of the Ants deals with hive intelligence, or was his conceptualization more conventional (and thus not relevant to this article)? I also recall another SF short story involving an army ant swarm that developed intelligence enough to grains of gold and rare Amazon butterflies for cattle; I can't recall the title or the author. Any thoughts? rewinn (talk) 18:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Next World

In Discovery Channel "Next World" Program, it was discussed that Grasshopper swarming may be used for road traffic. It is also mentioned that cars can be joined together like trains (while moving), so the wind resistance is less etc.

If anyone know more on these, please add a comment.Photnart (talk) 04:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Artificial or Natural?

There seems to be a contradiction in the first two paragraphs:

"Swarm intelligence (SI) is a type of artificial intelligence ..."

"Natural examples of SI include ant colonies, ..."

If SI is defined to be a type of AI, then the natural examples aren't really examples of SI. Either the definition needs to be broadened to include natural phenomena, or else the natural phenomena need to be presented differently, maybe SI is "modeled on" them. 66.245.43.17 (talk) 19:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Compare the scholarpedia.org article, which begins, "Swarm intelligence is the discipline that deals with natural and artificial systems composed of many individuals that coordinate using decentralized control and self-organization." 66.245.43.17 (talk) 20:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]