User talk:McDoobAU93

The term "canon"

Sorry, I don't know how to speak to you but what is wrong with Canon? Why do you have the authority to control the Disney page may I ask McDoob? What is wrong with that term? That is what the films are collectively called. Why can't I change the Rapunzel page? It is the 50th film in the CANON. I did not write anything derogatory or wrong, I wanted to change it to reflect the canon. It has to be 'produced by the studio' because you wrote it like that right? It is the 50th film, from the official Disney Animation website. What is the difference? It is cited on the main List of Disney theatrical animated features, I have to cite the fact that it is a part of the canon? Maybe you can do that since you control everything? I may note that the official website does not state 'Official List' so it's just your own choice right? I remember before that it was Official Canon, which sounds better to me. Admit it, you control the wording of everything. You just don't want anyone else messing up your work. I apologize if I am being rude, but you are just hiding behind the fact that I didn't cite anything. Cite what? When I change one word from list to canon when you already wrote it is named the canon?

Dot

certainly, please do add when you see them. Maybe we can identify an IP range or show enough nonsense to get those pages semi-protected indefinitely (won't likely happen, but you never know).SpikeJones (talk) 16:32, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

The one I added to your list just got blocked for adding it back several times, along with adding stuff to various DreamWorks Animation articles that Disney would now be distributing those films. Disney and DreamWorks do have a partnership, but the Animation group is separate and not part of the deal, so maybe that will be another clue as to what's going on. Thanks. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 16:40, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

point of clarification, Dreamworks Animation is a separate company and has been since the 2004 spin-off. the business relationships of Dreamworks SKG are unrelated to the activities of DWA. 75.84.123.169 (talk) 20:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for your note on my talk page. I knew that the DreamWorks/Disney deal did not involve the animation unit, but I wasn't aware of the specifics, so thank you very much for the info. Happy editing! --McDoobAU93 (talk) 20:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

yeah it seems this confuses a lot of people, who may have good intentions but are factually incorrect. Munroe sums this up pretty nicely here http://xkcd.com/386/ 75.84.123.169 (talk) 20:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) got part of the IP range softblocked for two weeks. Let's see what happens next. SpikeJones (talk) 03:10, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

You "goodfaithed" a revert earlier today. Generally speaking, it appear that most of these bad edits we're chasing are coming from 83.70.xxx.xxx. Something to look for. SpikeJones (talk) 03:06, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I saw the 83.70 in the IP, but still tried to at least give the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for the heads-up, and your help this week. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:23, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

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dot's back with a new IP range to monitor with a ton of bad edits. Looks like 78.16.x.x (today was 78.16.219.126). SpikeJones (talk) 03:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Androllercoaster

McDoobAU93,How exactly do all of you communicate? I mean,you guys have like long discussions.Is there a way for me to have other people ask or tell me things?Because I would like to get into this more.PS:were you mad at me for the hollywood rip ride rockit stuff? I just did not know how to get my proof.Please reply! =D

Protection for a Page

Hi, I need to protect or semi-protect the "Walt Disney Platinum Editions" article as it appears that many uregistered users put information that is not true all the time. Can you tell me how to protect the article or could you do it? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Disneyfolly (talk • contribs) 23:01, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm looking at this article, and I do agree that there is now a reliable source for the information. However, some things that are provided, such as the release dates for films beyond the upcoming Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, are still uncited. I'm going to look at cleaning up the language and formatting, along with improving the citation links (using the same ones you provided, but more in like with the Manual of Style. As to page protection, go to WP:RPP and fill in the requested information. If you use Twinkle, click on the rpp tab on the article page and it'll help you prepare and post the request. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 23:10, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I tell you what:

I have had it with that doofus and this isn't the only long-term sleeper I found. This has BF101 written all over it. I left the talk page open on this one; he generally abuses the talk page privileges, but I wanted to see if I'd get a legit unblock request. The fact that he hasn't answered tells me all I need to know. I wonder why this site drives me nuts and then the answer comes to me: Some of its users are already nuts.  :) So, if you ever see any bizarre edits to Disney-related articles or requests for unprotection, it's our "deer" little friend. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 02:55, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I'll keep my eyes open. Other editors (notably SpikeJones) and I have been busy with an anonymous editor who appears to use a range of IPs (mostly 83.70.xx.xx) to add in unannounced Disney feature films. Then there's another long-time Disney vandal who keeps trying to move Fantasyland attractions around between Disneyland and Tokyo Disneyland. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 03:14, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Glad you caught me since I was signing off. If you do a geolocate check of the anons and it comes up as BellSouth in Atlanta, it's him. WP:LTA/BF101 has a bunch of info. His entry on the LTA page was becoming so long I had to spin it off on its own! Good luck and keep me posted. I can spot this guy without even so much as a computer, he's so obvious. PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I just reviewed this fellow's unblock request and I'm convinced he is not BF101, but please let me know if there are any future problems since I went ahead and unblocked him. Thanks for the alert in the first place! PMDrive1061 (talk) 22:30, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

ANDROLLERCOASTER

Wikipedia has been having these problems before,I mean,thats our job, to edit.So whats bugging you? What doofus. Because I'd like to help you two. I know one thing for sure,PMDrive and Mc Doob,you can sure deal with problems.One more thing,I dont know why I am saying this but still,am I by any chance the so called doofus. Just asking. Because I am still kind of "bummed" over the whole HRRR thing.Please reply!

I moved this down to start a second section, because it kinda is a new thread, even though it's an offshoot of a previous one. To begin, let me clear up your biggest concern: no, we are not discussing you, or your previous edits. As I noted on your talk page, you're working in good faith, and since all that, I haven't seen any edits that you've made to any of the articles I watch that would cause me to think otherwise. So no worries there.

As to what PMDrive and I were discussing ... within a number of the Disney-related articles (notably the films), there is a particular editor who continues to make edits against consensus, despite repeated requests to not do so. The editor has been banned and blocked repeatedly, but every so often keeps creating new accounts or editing from anonymous IPs (look up WP:SOCK for more details). In this particular case, PMDrive blocked an account that, to him, appeared to be this user (who has gone by the username BambiFan101, or some derivative). When the blocked user appealed, PMD realized it wasn't a new sockpuppet, so he released the block. However, as you noted above, PMD did become frustrated as to why BambiFan doesn't take a hint.

You are correct in that our work on the project is to edit the articles. However, I, as do a number of editors, believe that our time is better served improving the articles instead of fixing juvenile pranks. That said, we take the good with the bad and do what we need to do to improve the articles, even if it is just to clean up someone's ill-intentioned handiwork.

As to how you can help ... keep an eye out on articles that interest you, that you care about. The article for Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit would be a good one, for example. Be sure to use your watchlist, so you can keep track of edits and who makes them. More often than not, the edits that are made are well-intentioned and work for the article. Most of the rest of the time, you get what I call "fanboy edits." Your initial work fell into this category ... that's not meant as an insult at all. Fans mean well, but may need a friendly primer on how the project works (such as adding verifiable facts instead of rumors). Many of those--yourself included--react well and become productive editors on the project, which, to me, is the best possible outcome after dealing with a potential problem edit.

Less frequently, you'll get unnecessary, pointless edits (like "this ride is coooooooooool") that are easily taken care of. Less frequently still are repeat offenders, like the aforementioned BambiFan, who have a pretty consistent M.O. and who may well be editing to just cause trouble. I hope that clears some things up, but if it raised more questions, feel free to ask them ... and again, be sure to use four tildes to sign your responses, since that automatically affixes your name and the time you made them, making it easier to locate. Thanks!

--McDoobAU93 (talk) 06:37, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

THANKS!

Hello! Mc DoobAU93,you seem to be a big help in wikipedia.Every time somebody has a question you answer it. You haved helped me from day one.(my rather confusing day!)Anyway,thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Androllercoaster (talk • contribs) 13:28, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

You're very welcome, and thank you for the compliments. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 14:38, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

HELP.

I dont really understand wikipedia very well.(not in a bad way)I just need help getting used to this. McDoob,does a "speedy deletion" mean I will be kiked out? I would like to stay.So,could anyone kind of give me advice to writing better messages and articles? Thank you! Please reply! =)--Androllercoaster (talk) 23:15, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, this seems like it would be a good choice for adoption ... someone who could help you understand how things work, what to do, what not to do, etc. There really isn't much that will "kick you out" as it were, and what you did was an honest mistake, so no worries there. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 23:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I think I have found one:

McDoob,I was planning to say this before but,I think I have found one of the people such as bambi fan.In the Montu article there were a bunch of false statements.I constantly corrected them,but every time I did,it changed back.I havent seen anything about it lately,but I just wanted you and PMDrive to know.Just in case.--Androllercoaster (talk) 21:45, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it and see what I can find out. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 22:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

UPDATE: I took a look at the edits, and so far you've done the right thing. I've added Montu to my watchlist, and if the change occurs again I'll ask about it. Thanks for the heads-up ... by the by, have you given any thoughts to Wikipedia Adoption? --McDoobAU93 (talk) 22:09, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, joy...

I'll just have to monitor things closely. I have limited internet access for a brief time. Ah, but not to worry. I'll have it back soon.  :) If a Disney vandal does show his face, you let me know anyway, capeesh? Thanks for the nice words, by the way. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 02:48, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

• I wish to high heaven I knew what leads these unsupervised little monsters to mess with Disney articles. Heck, I offered to mentor Bambifan. Twice. My wife and I have deluxe annual passports to Disneyland and I've even had breakfast at Club 33 a couple of times. Thought he'd appreciate someone with a real-world perspective of Disneyland, but no. He's pure-D insane, that one. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:00, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Never been to WDW, but someday, perhaps. Hey, nothing geeky about timing that trip the way you did! We were there for the 50th anniversary and I thought for sure it was going to be INSANE. The line stretched halfway across Downtown Disney, but they cut off the admissions after awhile. The result was one of the most pleasant and memorable days either of us had ever spent there. We were at the Carnation Cafe on Main Street at 4:30 when they replayed the opening day speech; it was impossible not to shed a tear. When they say the place is magical, well, times like that sure are. When we get through this hectic but pleasant time which is limiting my internet, we're going back. Can't this week; definitely next week. Besides, I think "Haunted Mansion Holiday" is up and running...! Can't miss Jack Skellington, y'know. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:08, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Ditto for me returning to Disneyland ... I'm ready to go back. It really was an amazing day. I took the "Walk in Walt's Footsteps" tour and have my tour ticket with the Dec. 5 '01 date stamped on it. I really need to frame that and other mementos from that trip. (As I recall, 2001 was the debut of Haunted Mansion Holiday ... I still have my glow-in-the-dark sweatshirt that I wear when I'm in the parks for the holidays, or even on Christmas morning.) --McDoobAU93 (talk) 03:12, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes! Did the Walk, too. Truly amazing history. Getting to go in the Tiki Room before the crowds was beyond cool, especially when they passed around an old Audio-Animatronic bird to show how it worked. The group we were with grew kind of restless and basically cut the tour a bit short, which worked to our advantage. After lunch, we thanked the tour guides who in turn got us VIP passes to ride the Lilly Belle presidential railroad car. I can't tell you how many times I've done that "grand circle tour," but this was the first time sitting in an overstuffed chair in a private car! Gotta run...take care...see you here, I hope. PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:21, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Busch

Hey thanks, it was a mistake on my part. Once the change does take place, I would say it's fair that the lead only mentions BEC as the operator, and that could even be done now. I'm not sure if the infoboxes have a field for "Parent", but Blackstone could be noted their. Grsz¹¹ 14:51, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

No worries. I took a look at your talk page and it appears that you've been here a while, and like I said what you were doing wasn't hurting the article at all ... it was just jumping the gun a little. As to the possible "Parent" field, there is an "Owner" and "Operator" field in the amusement park infobox, but I don't know if this application would fit. If you take a look at Six Flags Over Texas and Six Flags Over Georgia, you'll see that these parks are actually owned by separate companies, but both are operated by Six Flags. The articles go into the nuts and bolts of these set-ups, if you're curious about it.

Since BEC owns these parks outright, the name should only appear once. Again, this is subject to discussion, but that's where I stand. You are correct, however, in noting that BEC should be mentioned in the lead paragraphs of each park in the chain ... I think it now is, but in case it isn't ... Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.

--McDoobAU93 (talk) 15:11, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Note - we'll need to update/modify/merge Incidents at Busch parks appropriately once the deal is completed (Incidents at Blackstone parks?). The philosophy: park info moves to the page representing the *current* owner, regardless of who owned the park at the time the incident occurred. The footnotes/datestamps contain info on when the event happened, and the park page itself should contain ownership timelines that would explain those items. SpikeJones (talk) 12:33, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Agreed - I'll recommend the format used for Incidents at Disney parks once I get into Incidents at Busch parks and get a look at it, then move forward after the deal with Blackstone is completed. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 13:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

68.147

Having seen their edits before on the Disney 3-D related articles, it's similar editing style to what we see with BF101 and Dot... a few good edits surrounded by a plethora of bad ones. Generally speaking, when there's a new editor regularly adding bad info, I check their edit history to see if it there is a pattern in articles being edited and the type of edits being made. Usually there's enough info to determine if they are a habitual vandal or just making newbie mistakes. This one fell into the former category for me. SpikeJones (talk) 12:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Guess I'm an incurable optimist sometimes. This is a good trait; never apologize for it. I'm more cynical on a regular basis

Saw that ages ago. Dot is similar. Just saying. SpikeJones (talk) 03:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Leave it. No need to poke a sleeping bear, and if they act after the block is up then you'll have more material to go after (different topic regarding edit #320617335 here... "be wary"). SpikeJones (talk) 03:58, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

nightmare

eh, I reverted it as a future item instead of current item (intention: don't list it until it's been released). My bad, as the whole article lists future items. never mind. SpikeJones (talk) 02:58, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Always go straight to the source. googling site:go.com +nightmare +3d gives you http://disney.go.com/partners/hauntedholidays/#nightmare SpikeJones (talk) 12:12, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Help!!!

Hi, I'm "Disneyfolly" and for a long time I can't log in into my account. It says that my password is wrong, I tried changing it but there is no use because it continues to tell me that is wrong. Please help me because I can't contribute with anything. Thank You for your time — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.155.33.244 (talk)

I'm going to respond here in case your IP shifts between the time you posted this and the time you read it ... have you done the "E-mail new password" option on the login page? If you've provided Wikipedia with an e-mail address in the past, they could reset your password. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 16:07, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes I've provided an email address and I have reset the passsword but when I tried to log in agagin it tells me that the password is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.155.33.244 (talk) 16:10, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

This may be a dumb question, but does your password have any capital letters in it, or is CAPS LOCK on (something I doubt, because your messages are in mixed case)? If that doesn't solve it, you might want to try the options provided here. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 16:15, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you I will try that link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.155.33.244 (talk) 16:32, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Help with user and talk page

Hello I was wondering if you can help me to create my user page and my talk page. I don't know where to go to edit them and I don't understand some guidelines in the design center. ThanksDisneyfolly2 (talk) 21:22, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

At the top of the screen, above all the tabs, you should see a red link of your user name, followed by a probably red-linked "my talk" link. Click on these and start your editing. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 21:23, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Editor review archived

Since it has been well over 30 days since you requested to be reviewed, I've gone ahead and archived your request as part of my effort to cleanup Editor Review. You may view your review here. Thanks & happy editing. If you have any questions, please message me on my talk page. =D Netalarmtalk 23:54, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Adopt-a-user

Hey mc doob,I was wondering if you could help me with "Adopt a user" by explaining it to me.Because,I dont know when to like come on to the computer and talk to you about it.So anyway,could you please help me? Thanks! =D--Androllercoaster (talk) 16:02, 24 October 2009 (UTC) ==

When one user adopts another, the more experienced user (adopter) helps the novice user (adoptee) learn how to navigate around, how to edit more properly, how to research and add those citations to the articles, etc. It's not a permanent decision, and either party can end the "adoption" at any time for any reason. Sometimes the adopter will give the adoptee a couple of tasks (for example, finding a source for a statement or fixing a sentence based on the Manual of Style) to see how they handle them, then provide assistance if necessary. Sometimes the adoptee will ask the adopter to double-check some edits before they're made, or will ask the adopter to help them if something gets heated.

The goal is to help the adoptee become a better editor, which gives them the chance to be an even bigger part of the Wikipedia Project. Put simply, the adopter offers to be a teacher/mentor/guide for the adoptee. The interaction between the two is really no different than what we're doing now--leaving messages on talk pages. Hopefully this answers your questions. Let me know what you think ... if you'd like some help, I'd be glad to take you under my wing.

--McDoobAU93 (talk) 18:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism assist

Hello! Thanks for your message, and you're welcome. I simply noticed a series of changes to your userpage while looking at the recent changes. It seemed suspicious, so I took a look and voila, caught a vandal. I know that we should assume good faith, but I have a feeling that fellow will be looking at a longer block in the future, but we'll see. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 14:23, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, "vandalism-only" is what I was thinking as well, and I am surprised he did not get a longer block. But, yes, keep an eye on him, and keep me informed. Happy hunting. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 14:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

re: your message

Hi, I've left a reply to your message on my talk page -- Marek.69 ^talk 17:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the update to Standup roller coaster

Chang is indeed at Great America. It says so at the article for Chang. It says so at the article for Great America. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.12.126 (talk) 03:01, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I looked at the two articles ... the cited source in the article for Chang (roller coaster) merely stated the attraction was being removed, which is indeed correct. In the article for Six Flags Great America, two sources are provided, but both are self-published blogs that do not meet the criteria for reliable sources. So I've revised the article to indicate that Chang is closed, which is true and verifiable. As to its future, when a reliable source is provided, it can be added. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:06, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

The Rescuers

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on The Rescuers. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Owen× ☎ 19:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for taking this to the article's Talk page! I believe both you and Taran Wanderer take your editing work here seriously, and I'm sure this matter can be resolved by either discussing it with him or involving other editors familiar with the subject matter and the relevant policies. Feel free to solicit my help if things get out of hand. Owen× ☎ 20:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

The talk page is where it belongs, and for the life of me I thought I had already brought it up there, but obviously I hadn't. There's been a lot of speculative BD/DVD releases posted to the various Disney movies lately, so I'm hoping we can start resolving them all soon, starting with this one. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 20:49, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I reverted those bad edits on Beauty and the Beast (1991 film). Also, I think The Rescuers is also an excellent film and deserves a Diamound Edition. 70.146.212.249 (talk) 03:38, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately our opinions don't matter much with regard to what label Disney applies to a home-video release. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 03:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Just when I thought the little freak had gone away...

...he's back doing the same idiocy. At least one of his ranges has been blocked for six months (thank the Lord above) and I'm handing out six-month blocks to any other IPs and protecting the articles. This is beyond crazy at this point. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:57, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

What's disturbing me (and making me worthy of being slapped) is that I fell for the first part of Bambifan's M.O. ... but I think I got wise to it the second time. Check the section above regarding The Rescuers and you'll see where I started smelling a rat. Thanks for fixing it so fast. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:00, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

No, you deserve a Barnstar and not a slap, believe me. He's been quiet lately, but hoo boy, has he been back for more over the last day or two. Glad to have been of help. Slow night at work and I still don't have internet at my new place; I guess I was in the right place at the right time! Logging off...thanks for the tip and the help. Regards, --PMDrive1061 (talk) 04:04, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Rollback

I have granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe you can be trusted to use rollback correctly, and for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback and Wikipedia:Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. JamieS93 18:36, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your vote of confidence. I'll do my best to live up to it. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 01:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

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== will they stop? ==

 I know that I have not ben around latley, but I heard you and PMDrive talking about that guy who is messing up articles(before I made this message).Anyway,please let me know how I can help.Oh,and I havent made up my mind about adopt a user.Sorry.I will think more about it.--Androllercoaster (talk) 21:44, 17 December 2009 (UTC)