Jump to content

Talk:Judeo-Masonic conspiracy theory

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 82.43.47.6 (talk) at 23:56, 4 April 2010. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

WikiProject iconJewish history Unassessed
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Jewish history, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Jewish history on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Jewish historyWikipedia:WikiProject Jewish historyTemplate:WikiProject Jewish historyJewish history-related articles
???This article has not yet received a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
???This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

translating

Translating from es:Conspiración Judeo-Masónico-Comunista-Internacional. Any help welcome ---- Fernando Estel ☆ · 星 (Talk: here- commons- es) 11:07, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From memory, Luis Carrero Blanco had published on the conspiracy even in the 1970s. If you can confirm, it can be added as evidence of the persistence of the theory even in late Francoism. --Error (talk) 22:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipolicy on synonyms in lead??

Just curious, do you know off hand which wikipolicy allows you to write:

The International-Communist-Judaeo-Masonic Conspiracy, sometimes called the international-marxist-judaeo-masonic conspiracy, or simply the judaeo-masonic conspiracy

I assume you have at least one or two wp:reliable sources for each alternate use? Just wondering. CarolMooreDC (talk) 02:11, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Jewish lobby" and "Israel lobby" are not synonyms, as has been explained to you over a week ago on the WP:NOR/N board. Jayjg (talk) 04:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it is curious that communist/marxist element of conspiracy is missing in the title of the article.DonaldDuck (talk) 04:22, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gosh, what a coincidence Jayjg should be editing on this page. So I guess Jayjg is saying that "International-Communist-Judaeo-Masonic Conspiracy", sometimes called the "international-marxist-judaeo-masonic conspiracy", or simply the "judaeo-masonic conspiracy" are NOT synonymous - or I should say he's saying that you have to have reliable sources saying that the first two are "also called" "judaeo-masonic conspiracy"? Guess I'll have to look at the sources for that when I get a chance. According to Jayjg's rules, you will have to delete them without a reliable source. Even if you find 700 mainstream WP:RS articles that USE them interchangeably. Hey, I could spend the rest of my time on wikipedia deleting such nonreferenced synonyms in leads. CarolMooreDC (talk) 06:21, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE edit war with DonaldDuck on alleged "Russia renewal"

The link http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASInt_13/5374_13.htm you have provided is hearsay as it doesn't prove where exactly such article exists. Please try to show the proof itself. I tried to google http://www.pravda.ru but got no relevant results.

The same goes with http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html, where Max-Who-Weber tells something about private opinion of one scandalous person. That's not a proof also.

http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/asw2007/belarus.html -- Republic of Belarus is independent from Russia since 1991, not sure why its problem attribute to Russia. Also Klimov is U.S.citizen.

The page http://www.nationalka.ru/2006-3-5-93-95-/v.v.-kozhinov-tsarj-iudeyskiy.html doesn't mention conspiracy or blood at all. Why have you put it here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Volodymir k (talk • contribs) 15:40, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Per source #1:"� Russia: The Web site of Pravda newspaper published an article arguing that French, German and Italian leaders are advocating a bailout of European banks to benefit "Rothschild, Kuhn Loeb, and other banking magnates," a reference to well-known Jewish banking families. The article continued, "The trouble is most of Europe is sick of their Zionist puppet governments, the wrecking of the universities and the flood of third world immigration. Another Hitler, running a united Europe, could be elected in a heartbeat."Galassi (talk) 15:50, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Max Weber is a major revisionist and neonazi. His opinion certainly counts in this context.Galassi (talk) 15:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Source #3 talks about Oleg Platonov:"the Pravoslavnaia Kniga bookshop was selling, in addition to candles, icons, crosses and other Church objects, antisemitic literature, including the volumes Myths and Truth about Pogroms and The Mystery of the Zion Protocols: A Conspiracy against Russia, both by Russian writer and revisionist historian, ultranationalist, antisemite and Holocaust denier Oleg Platonov (Moscow, 2003; 2006). The first claims that Judaism is hostile to Russian civilization and Christianity, Jewish capital controls banking and stock markets, early 20th century pogroms were a Zionist provocation, and the Jews murdered the Russia leadership and inflicted terror in Soviet times. The second deals with the secret development of Jewish power in Russia, Spain and Israel; the Talmud, the Russian Church and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion; the 1935 Bern trial of the Protocols and the world Jewish conspiracy; the Protocols in the history of Israel; the Holocaust myth; a comparison between Hitler and Ben Gurion; and the 1975 United Nations resolution equating Zionism with racism."Galassi (talk) 15:55, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

masons

I'm not so sure if this article does a good enough job in explaining how masons specifically are tied into all of this. It seems more like just flat-out jewish conspiracy theories. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.150.62.189 (talk) 19:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Similarities with Alex Jones etc?

To me, some of this has frightening similarities with the line pushed by the Alex Jones nuts, - the global Communist-Zionist-Bankers-Liberal-Illuminati-NWO-Masons-Mexican Immigrants-Environmentalist-UN conspiracy-Vaccins-etc-etc to kill our grandmas and take away our freedom and enslave us to the NWO etc. Or more moderately the Rush Limbaugh line which sticks to the Communist-UN-Bankers-Liberal-Environmentalist conspiracy to take away all that we work for and kill our grandmas. It would be of interest if there is any source talking about the current right-wing conspiracy theorizing rage movement in the United States and the similar kind of rhetoric that was used by Franco and the Nazis and so on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.247.85.103 (talk) 05:24, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Poor Article

This article gives almost no information about the actual theory, and instead just seems like a long effort to discredit and mock the anyone who considers or considered it, and tries its very best to conflate it with "anti-semitism" (which presumably means anti-jewish, even those jews and semites are not identical terms). Poor article.--82.43.47.6 (talk) 23:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Judeo-Masonic_conspiracy_theory&oldid=353999776"