Talk:University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee School of Information Studies

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Rankings

Unless reliable sources for the ScienceWatch and/or Library and Information Science Research rankings along with reliable sources atesting to the ranking bodies notability can be provided quickly they will need to be removed. Codf1977 (talk) 17:04, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the ref for ScienceWatch, however there is nothing showing it is a notable body to provide rankings. Codf1977 (talk) 11:19, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It may not look prominet to you, but it does to people in this filed. Revws (talk) 11:38, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok can you provide some prof of that as per WP:V

I am removing the ScienceWatch ranking as it is not a refection of anything educational.

It is saying that between 2002 and 2006 the Researchers based at the School of Information Studies published 53 papers in journals indexed by Thomson Scientific which was 2.38% of the papers published by the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee in journals indexed by Thomson Scientific which is more as a percentage (not by number) than anyone else. It is not a good measure of productivity as it does not appear to take into account the type and weight of the papers. I can find no other ref's to this ranking and believe that it only treated as notable by the University. Codf1977 (talk) 14:59, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have explained why I have removed it - it is not about reliable sources it is based on the fact that the ScienceWatch ranking is not notable and it is not appropriate to use it. Codf1977 (talk) 15:47, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notability is about the article. Not every sentence within the article need to be notable. Besides, this ranking is notable. Google search results justify its notability. Revws (talk) 12:09, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Advert and Notability Tag

I Have tagged this article as advert like as ALL you get from it are the causes it runs and its rankings.

I have tagged this article for Notability as per Wikipedia:College and university article guidelines as nothing I read shows that this or any other "academic departments [in UWM] are especially notable or significant they may have their own dedicated article". Codf1977 (talk) 09:32, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You need to read the guidelines carefully. It says that all universities and colleges are notable. In addition, sub-articles is ok when the contents of the subject gets long. The is no policy here says rankings are advertising. That's your POV. Revws (talk) 12:09, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No this is a constituent academic college and not a stand alone one. Codf1977 (talk) 12:19, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sub-article for such case is allowed. Revws (talk) 12:20, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

if "especially notable or significant" - that is my issue - I don't think it is - can you demonstrate it is ? Codf1977 (talk) 12:23, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The contents of this article shows its notability, which can be justified by Google search result. Besides, please be aware of the first sentce of the guidance, "When university pages become too large or too comprehensive it may be beneficial to break off certain sections into sub-pages." Revws (talk) 12:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It does not show it is notable (besides it says especially notable) and yes it may be beneficial to break off certain sections into sub-pages, but that does not overide the section on academic colleges. Codf1977 (talk) 12:32, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the example given in Wikipedia:College and university article guidelines of Michigan State University academics - which is exactly the same type of page you are trying to have deleted here. Codf1977 (talk) 12:36, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This university is one of the major research universities in the US. Itself is notable as a whole. It doesn't need to rank on the top in UNWR to be notable. Besides, the notability of this school is justified by the reliable independent sources provided in this article. In addition, the guideline is only a guidance not a law.Revws (talk) 12:41, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]