Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Contemporary persecution of non-Jews by Jews

Contemporary persecution of non-Jews by Jews

See Talk:Contemporary persecution of non-Jews by Jews for arguments regarding the unsuitability of this topic that seems to aim to accomplish a POV cynical goal more suited to the Anti-Zionism article. There is already an article about Zionism and racism in any case, so this article seems suspiciously placed to portray Jews as "villains" -- more of a "blame the victim" syndrome routine, than a work of unbiased scholarship. What a shame that it has been here so long. IZAK 06:14, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete IZAK 06:15, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I'm switching as Status of religious freedom in Israel seems to be dealt with in Religion in Israel, including the stuff that was in this article and seemed germane.--T. Anthony 07:52, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - what's the argument for deleting the article? --Candide, or Optimism 06:55, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Candide: Simple, it's full of garbage, not worthy of an encyclopedia. IZAK 09:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm open to discussion here, but my instinct would be to refactor any well-cited material that is not elsewhere, and delete this, along with other articles like Historical persecution by Muslims, Historical persecution by Atheists, and Historical persecution by Christians. All of these seem to me to rely on muddled categories: they pick out a broad religious affiliation, and then seek out persecutors who happen to be of that affiliation. And "persecution" is such a loaded word all around, especially when applied (as it is here) to a private citizen spitting at someone. I could imagine a useful article on human rights of non-Jews in Israel (which seems the real thrust of this), but not one focused primarily on violations of those rights. If violations are prevalent, that would come out in such an article; if not, so would that. More drastically, on a related article, even in a contemporary context, any coverage of "Muslims" ranges from Indonesia to Saudi Arabia. It's hard for me to imagine that any meaningful pattern of persecution ranges over such divergent societies. All worthwhile material here should be regrouped in ways that don't lend themselves to one-sided articles, whether this is organized by time-period, or on some other principle. I don't usually monitor AFD these days (although I'll watchlist this page), but if someone wants to nominate any of these related articles for deletion, you may feel free to contact me via my talk page, and I will cast essentially the same vote on any of them. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:24, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to go for deleting all these "persecution by" articles I could go for that too. I created the one on atheists as there were all these others already, but all of them gone is okay by me too.--T. Anthony 07:47, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete "The vast majority of Jews believe" is nonsense alone. Most of the rest of the article is unsupported and vague, but is also contained in other articles, making this one redundant. And I agree with Jmabel. jnothman ^talk 07:38, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this. I thought we'd already gotten rid of this tripe. Tomer ^talk 07:57, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: consider Persecution of non-blondes by blondes instead. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 08:13, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Word. Let's hurry up and get this over with. It's nearing Shabbat and I'd like to enjoy my time and relax, and specifically not worry about bickering of something so simple. --Hersch 12:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the content (at least those parts that aren't grossly pov) are already covered elsewhere 70.48.174.244 08:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, very good explanations aboveKempler video 09:26, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete POV propaganda. Kuratowski's Ghost 09:03, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. All those articles in the "religious persecution" series seem a little suspect to me, maybe we need to take a look at all of those too (there are so many of them...) Grandmasterka 09:39, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete. We are writing an encyclopaedia, not a hate magazine. -- Olve 10:14, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Ches88 11:54, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Let me be bold: there's no need for an article that basically has nothing to cover. Jews might not be better than other people, but "religious persecution" seems not to be one of their flaws. I can see that the article itself admits that (at least in my interpretation?) but our tendency to try to write something educated about everything turns this acknowledgment into a pretty awkward text. Also, why do some people always have to mix everything in the same bag? — Hillel 12:23, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Spitting attacks are persecution? The fact that the State of Israel may be doing things that some would call persecution does not equate with "Jews", as these acts are not performed as a function of the state's "Jewish identity" but for political reasons. In other words: everything is POV, out of balance and will remain so whatever changes are made. JFW | T@lk 12:35, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- /me persecutes this article... Tomer ^talk 13:04, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and I give my permission to copy this vote into any nominated "Persecution of ..." article's AfD entry. Confusing Manifestation 13:07, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per others gidonb 13:57, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge appropriate information to appropriate article. Delete anything that is left. --StuffOfInterest 14:13, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - this is what is known as begging the question. --Leifern 14:30, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete very boring flavor. Klonimus 14:55, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]