Talk:Pokpung-ho

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Major Edit Planned

Due to the inconstisency and unreliability of publically available data on the M-2002, I will "uncompile" the data on the page and list them according to sources. Just over 1/2 dozen individuals have provided extensive information regarding PokPungHo on bemil.chosun.com and other sites, and I will be arranging them in order soon. I believe that this is more effective than saying "the PPH may have this, but some claim this and others yet claim this." etc., etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.184.238 (talk) 20:00, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The edit is finished. Can someone produce a CGI or a schematic drawing of a T-72G with an extended hull equipped with the flat gun of the T-80? Maybe we can use that as a possible reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.184.238 (talk) 03:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, that seems unnecessary now, the Belarusian T-72 will do.

Future of this article

I don't think I'll be editing this article again anytime soon, since it's not everyday we get info on the PPH. =)

However, can someone re-classify this article? It's no longer a stub.

Whew~ The tank comparison is finally finished. Any more ideas, people? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.184.238 (talk) 04:46, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jokjebi (Mongoose) ATGM

Alright, the Jokjebi is an ATGM that is in development by ADD at the moment, but very little information has been leaked at this point. Even the ROKMC official website specifications listing states that the XK2 will mount 8 Jokjebi ATGMs, so it's rather certain that the missile is at least in development. However, "Jokjebi" is a codename, and obviously, the official designation will probably change, so keep an eye out for any news. There is the possibility of the project being scrapped, as there has been minimal information leaked about the project and it has been rather quiet regarding the missile for quite a while (but then again, this is a low-profile project, it'll be months or years before any detailed info or specification is released). But I can't say that mentioning it would hurt. I think we can handle mentioning it as "in development," right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.184.238 (talk) 02:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No specs released at the moment, we'll have to wait a little longer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.184.238 (talk) 21:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P'okpoong-Ho shells

Just to calrify, as far as we know, North Korea does not develop/manufacture APFSDS shells, but they manufacture their own "second- generation" AP shells. The two are quite different, so please don't confuse them. None of the data I came across regarding the PPH mentioned anything about APFSDS, but if anyone has some info on North Korean APFSDS shells, I'd love to look at it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.184.238 (talk) 05:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright problem with Image:Chonmaho5 003.jpg

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Original research image

File:P'okpoong-Ho.jpg

This is a T-80U turret pasted on a T-72. It is based on speculation by a Wikipedia editor, not on any verifiable source. It is also incorrect, because the T-80's turret is significantly different than the T-72's.

It also seems to be a mashup of images found on the web, not original work. Source of turret & hull front,[1] source of hull rear and suspension.[2] The ownership of copyright is doubtful.

I'm removing it from the article. —Michael Z. 2008-05-28 17:52 z

New article about the Pokpung-ho

Joseph Bermudez has published a detailed article, with photos, about the Pokpung-ho in Vol. 1 No. 4 of his KPA Journal (PDF link). He argues that the tank is based on the T-62 rather the T-72. --GagHalfrunt (talk) 23:13, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this article makes much of this Wikipedia entry oboslete, especially all the speculations about the looks and the design. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.75.236.60 (talk) 15:05, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The big rewriting

The article is out of date; at least now we know how does Pokpung-ho looks like. Who will rewrite the article? And does the article needs pictures of Pokpung-ho like in the Russian Wikipedia?