Talk:The Room

Suggestion to semi-protect article

I think that this article should be semi-protected to avoid vandalism, such as the recent contributions from Desudesulol, as well as from about a dozen anonymous users over the last week. This film was shown on Adult Swim, and Wiseau has also made an appearance on Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job, which (not to stereotype) probably attracts a lot of bored teenage boys looking to vandalize the article. Can anyone make this happen? Shamrox (talk) 21:18, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Adam Green

Is Adam Green (filmmaker) notable enough to mention as a fan of this movie? I've seen him in a video being interviewed after waiting in line to see it. "Wiseau promotes the film as a black comedy and insists that the “unintentional” humor is intentional. People who have seen the film doubt this claim."

As for the attempted deletion of the last sentence; Even the NPR story linked below reports that people who watched this film don't believe the humor is intentional. Wikipedia isn't a place for censorship to suit personal agendas.

POV

Wow, you don't think the last paragraph was added by Wiseau himself, do you? Naaaah. 208.120.238.185 (talk) 09:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:TheRoomMovie.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

timing

The article claims that "The Room" ran on Adult Swim as a joke on April 1, 2009 and that it was followed by Tim & Eric ASGJ... well, I'm sitting here at 1am EST and "The Room" is still running. How can the author already know what will follow the joke, unless he/she is in on it? I'm weary of someone editing the article before something has officially happened. 67.189.254.228 (talk) 05:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

~~ Sitting here wondering the same thing... Saw the movie going bet it had to be an April fools joke from Adult swim looked for a wiki; and behold there was a wiki that was written in the past about things that have not happened yet. Was disturbed at the fact that it spoke in the past tense about an episode of Tim and Eric which is still a half hour away. Good post but might be a little staged.

By the way, where did this guy get 6 million dollars from, and how did he spend it on this thing? I'd like to see a citation on that line....

I am assuming it was maybe someone who worked there. its 2:24 here and Tim and eric is on.Derelix (talk) 06:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't see the humor in this "joke", is there any factual reference for this? It doesn't seem like a joke, just a special night of programming. --Bhockey10 (talk) 07:00, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Trust me they do it every year. They set it up so that it said on the guide that normal shows were playing but when it got to about midnight i think, they play this movie. I believe the first time i saw AS on april fools, they played fart sounds during their shows. Another time they played Aqua Teen Hunger Force: movie film for theaters, before it was released but it was all screwed up so that you could not really enjoy it (i am not sure what they did exactly) i know these are not really things you can put on Wiki without proof so i am not changing the article and i understand if you want to delete any mention of the joke on this article but it was a joke but i am telling you it was a jokeDerelix (talk) 13:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.130.86.188 (talk) 08:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC) How did he spend the $$? From someone who was there (although this won't meet wikipedia's criterion for inclusion), ... "...having the dubious honor of saying I worked on this film, has also brought with it the responsibility of telling the truth about what happened on set. Apparently Tommy had a lot of money sitting around and decided he needed to make a film. Not being able to decide what to shoot, film or video, we shot both. Side by side. Both cameras on the same head, being operated by one camera operator.

We shot almost the whole thing in the parking lot and back storage shed (read- sound stage) of a camera rental house in Hollywood. I got the call to work on the show after they had already tried to start with another crew that ended up all being dismissed. I believe that we ended up being crew 2 of 4. The show never had much organization to it from the start. We were told it would be a 3 week shoot. At the end of 3 weeks we were exactly 1/2 way done.

Crew calls were usually 8 a.m. tommy would show up around 10:30 or 11. Because he would take the HD video camera home with him every night, we had no choice but to wait for him. Since we were only in one room or outside the door in the parking lot, we did not have anything to do but sit around and wait every day.

When Tommy arrived we would have to see if he was in actor mode or director mode. If he was in actor mode, you were not allowed to talk to him so he could "stay in character." Since he was in almost every scene, he was always in his "actor" mode. This also meant that he could not direct. Noting the huge delays every day and the fact that we were never seeming to get anything done, our wonderful s c r i p t supervisor stepped up and became the director...at least he tried. One day he had to go off and do another show and asked if anyone else wanted to step up and direct and keep some s c r i p t notes. When nobody volunteered, I stepped up. I loved it. It was my directorial genius that had tommy bump into Lisa as they were taking the bad guy off the roof! I will also take credit for the now famous line "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" In the first 10 takes, tommy kept saying "You are TAKING me apart!" As the crew tried to keep it together, I felt I should right the situation and corrected the line. The crew was also instrumental in keeping the chicken line in. "CHEEEEEPPPPPPP, CHEEP, CHEEP, CHEEP, CHEEP!" We begged our scri pty/director to keep him doing it take after take.

Though the crew ultimately followed the original DP out the door and quit, we are all proud to have taken part in the making of this film. Amongst the film crew realms, we are minor celebrities. "Dude, you worked on that thing?" is a phrase that is often heard when The Room is mentioned.

I have the pleasure of driving through Hollywood every day and still seeing the billboard for the film up and Tommy glaring at me as if to say, "I telled you I could make movie." 71.130.86.188 (talk) 08:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Tuxedo scene

This article mentions that wedding photos are usually taken the day of the wedding. In my experience, this is not necessarily true: my wife and I had our wedding photos taken a month before our wedding day. Far be it from me to defend a turkey like The Room, but Denny's statement makes it pretty clear that they're going to a wedding photo shoot. 203.73.225.205 (talk) 10:05, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Errors section

While I agree that it's pretty easy to spot goofs and errors in the plot of The Room, I think this section might be going a bit overboard in some spots. For instance, the comment about Johnny drinking champagne after previously professing to be a non-drinker--is this really an error? For one thing, Johnny never claims to be a teetotaler (notwithstanding the admittedly clever Wiki link someone has added on the phrase "doesn't drink alcohol"); he just says that he "doesn't drink." Lots of people who "don't drink" will still have a sip of champagne at a party in their honor. Secondly, Johnny had already broken his abstinence in a previous scene, so this certainly seems acceptable in light of that. Basically what I'm saying is, sure, it's great to list these funny and topically relevant mistakes, but let's not just add things for the sake of having a long list. Do you agree? Chalkieperfect (talk) 01:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I do agree but I think the fact that he explicitly says he doesn't drink alcohol and then does so twice is a pretty weird occurrence. Probably worth mentioning. Grunge6910 (talk) 00:28, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree it's one of the many errors. Actually, Grunge, doesn't that make it 3 mistakes--the saying he doesn't drink then doing it twice! Mjpresson (talk) 02:36, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm removing the related statement because it is neither a plot hole or inconsistency. In fact, the arc of Johnny going from non-drinker to (casual) drinker appears to be the only change of characterization in the narrative. While such an instance of proper character development could be considered out of place in a story this poorly told, I don't think it qualifies as one of the errors intended for this section.
--K10wnsta (talk) 17:16, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Nostalgia Critic Para

Here is my opinion on the matter. Although this Nostalgia Critic has his own article, I don't think his views are ones that are particularly notable. The prose used in the article is rather vapid and tells the reader nothing. Please share your thoughts so we can decide whether it should be included or not. Thanks. --Half Price (talk) 17:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Here is said paragraph:

The Nostalgia Critic recently did a review on this movie, complaining about the plot holes, bad acting and the overall quality of the movie, he does point out, however, that the movie is slightly entertaining due to the poor quality of it and should be seen. The review, as well as another review of this movie by another reviewer, has since disappeared from his site without any explanation. --Half Price (talk) 17:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

The above entry regarding "The Nostalgia Critic" shouldn't be allowed in the article. It's full of weasel words and implications. We can't start piling on every internet critic's opinion in an encyclopedia. I feel the article begins to degrade with this. Mjpresson (talk) 22:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

This film really should be locked for the next few weeks. It looks like the NC has his minions out to send hate mail to Tommy Wiseau and the staff of Wiseau Films, thus probably leading to a lot of vandalism of the appropriate wikipedia pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.118.137.92 (talk) 02:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Minions. Really? You're not serious, are you? You make it sound like a kingpin is pulling the strings on a bunch of thugs. Not that I disagree about protecting the page, but come on. 174.126.69.239 (talk) 03:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Rather the only "vandalism of the page was caused by a mod. The mod deleted this section. "In 2010, the Nostalgia Critic reviewed the film. He placed it firmly in the "so-bad-it's-good" genre and ultimately recommended his audience to view it. The film was quickly removed due to copyright infringement from Wiseau Studios. This also confirms the missing of Obscurus Lupa's (a contributor to ThatGuyWithTheGlasses.com) review of The Room that was also taken down. In response, Doug Walker made a sketch satirizing Wiseau bringing the review down, stating that as a review it is protected under fair use. This sketch also lampooned John, a staff member of the official website for the film, who apparently was the first to bring the complaint."

I think it's rather sad that a mod would be the one to vandalize a page and then lock it to prevent others from fixing it. Well there are still ways to post the truth on Wiki. Sadly it has to be placed here instead of where it should be. --CSLoner (talk) 04:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

No, he locked the article because a presumably large number of users were attempting to edit in NC's review after seeing it on his website. Much like the AVGN, Doug's reviews are entertaining but not notable by Wikipedia standards. This has been discussed and resolved countless times on other articles. I see that since the article was unlocked someone has edited it back in without citation. Someone making a video review on YouTube or their personal website, however popular, does not constitute notability. I'm removing it again for now, if someone can find a suitable citation that the Nostalgia Critic's review has received notable coverage then it can be inserted back in. 71.101.95.236 (talk) 05:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)