Talk:Shri Ram Chandra Mission

Historical background

Hi all...

Before I begin to edit the article, I would like you to read this site of Lalaji's family, managed by the dean of NaqshMuMRa Sufi Order (Lalaji's Sufi society), Dinesh Kumar Saxena, who is Lalaji's grandson. Specifically read this article: http://sites.google.com/site/laalaajinilayam/epitomeofsahajmarg

Also look at (many) other legitimate societies formed by the followers of Lalaji. This one is for Ramashram Mathura by Dr. Chatterbuj: http://www.ramashram.com/

This is a quote from Babuji's journal which was published by his grandson, Navneet Kumar Saxena who is the President of the Shri Ram Chandra Mission registered by his grandfather in 1945:

Babuji claims he received this instruction from Vivekananda: http://autobiographyoframchandra.blogspot.com/

p 21 (20.05.1945) Intercommunication by S. Vivekananda "As you are to have a registered body 'Shri Ram Chandra Mission', call a meeting of the persons who are to be the members of this body to start with. (...) The body will be called 'Shri Ram Chandra Mission, Shahjahanpur (U.P. - India)'".

You will notice that nothing is said of naming the society for Lalaji, who would be: Ram Chadra of Fatehgarh. You will also notice that Lalaji, being a Sufi Master, has nothing to do with Sahaj Marg. Basbuji formed his Sahaj Marg, 14 years after Lalaji's death. Lalaji taught the Sufi path until his death. Babuji met Lalaji a few times only, and was not a preceptor of Lalaji's Sufi Order. You will notice in "epitome of Sahaj Marg" that Lalaji by-passed Babuji and he states in this article, the reason for by-passing him.

There are two "Shri Ram Chandra Mission" societies. One registered by Basbuji in 1945, which is now presided by his grandson, Navneet Kumar Saxena, and one registered in San Luis Obispo, California, USA in 1997 and is presided by Parthasarathi Rajagopalachari (aka Chari).

Kindly make the article reflect the truth about the two societies and the role of Lalaji (none) in Sahaj Marg and the Shri Ram Chandra Mission of Navneet and Chari. If you check on Chari's site, you will notice that it states that his society was registered in San Luis Obispo, in 1997. The Sahaj Marg Spirituality Foundation was registered in Austin, Texas, USA, also in 1997...

North America ONE... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.150.226 (talk) 13:36, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Please, don't forget that a Wikipedia article should be based mainly on reliable secondary sources per WP:RS#Primary, secondary, and tertiary sources, so sources that are not affiliated with the subject... --Europe22 (talk) 17:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Scan of Original SRCM Constitution of 1945

See here (http://www.freedom2think.org/documents/original.pdf) for a scan of the original constitution of the SRCM of 1945. You will notice that it is registered in "Lucknow", not Shahjahanpur...

Notice also that Babuji stated that the SRCM is set up as a "dictatorship", which should be interesting to the UNDPI who claim to promote "democracy" in their members...

The source of this info is the same as the source of the other information. The SRCM of Babuji, presided by Navneet, Babuji's grandson, and by the SRCM of Chari, registered in California, USA in 1997.

You will notice also that in the Wiki protocols, all minority statements and positions are to be included.

North American ONE!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.108.252.237 (talk) 20:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

For Definitive Information on Lalalji

See: Sufi Saints and Sufism by Dr. RK Gupta http://sufism.weebly.com/

NaqshMuMRa Stream of Sufis (the Sufi Order that begins with Lalaji:http://sufism.weebly.com/naqsh-mumra-stream-of-sufis.html

NaqshMuMRa Nexus: (Lalaji's Family Site, by the Dean of NaqshMuMRa Stream of Sufis, and Lalaji's grandson, Dinaysh Kumar Saxena)http://sites.google.com/site/laalaajinilayam/home

Institute for Shri Ramchandra Consciousness (ISRC) of Narayana, son of Dr. K.C Varadachari, (close friend of Babuji, and guru-in-waiting before Chari come on the scene. (see the section on their Masters: Lalaji, Babuji and ?? http://www.sriramchandra.org/

Why Babuji was not a "preceptor" in Lalaji's organization and why he did not chose to "fit-in" to Lalaji's many legitimate societies: http://sites.google.com/site/laalaajinilayam/epitomeofsahajmarg

Then there are all the "blogs" by preceptors, Zone-in-Charge, and abhyasis (philosophers, thinkers, intellectuals, and leaders) who left when Chari took over...

North American ONE!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.108.252.237 (talk) 18:12, 20 August 2010 (UTC)