Talk:Piano sonata

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Link problem

At [Prokofiev], in the list of compositions, I wrote: [Piano Sonata]s

It fails to link to this article. erl 216.19.218.50 20:04, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It can be edited to [Piano sonata]s (which is more standard English and 'Wikipedian', and recommended). In any case I'll attempt a redirect from [[Piano Sonata]] to the main article here. Schissel : bowl listen 17:16, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

Liszt, etc.

Quote: An important innovation was Franz Liszt's comprehensive "four-movements-in-one" form introducing the concept of thematic transformation.

Suggestion: as can be seen poss. from the fact that one of the next major works to make use of this form was not a piano sonata at all, but rather a chamber symphony (Schoenberg's), this idea and its elaboration might go under sonata form, not piano sonata? Schissel : bowl listen 12:48, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Answer: I agree (the Berg Sonata uses thematic transformation too, but maybe it is not so relevant to piano sonata). In an extended article on piano sonata though maybe the Liszt Sonata should be mentioned? Maybe also Chopin's Funeral March Sonata, and Scriabin and Prokofiev sonatas as major repertoire works? Rolf-Peter Wille

The 4-movement thematic cylce was the inspiration of Schubert - not Liszt. The Wanderer Fantasy predates the B Minor Sonata by about 30 years.

--AlkanSite 06:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Headings

I've added headings for each of the standard "eras" (baroque, classical, romantic, modern). Hopefully all of you can contribute something to one or each section. I'm doing my part, but feel free to correct anything I write, as I am by no means an expert on the subject, merely an enthusiast. As of now, this is a major "work in progress" article. Crabbyass 15:17, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend putting Beethoven under a single heading instead of splitting his corpus into two sections. Just for consistency, I'd put it all under the Classical heading --Setrajonas 04:16, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the piano sonatas of Beethoven are divided into three periods, as are all of his works, you see. Since some sonatas belong to his early period (the imitation period of Haydn, Mozart, etc.), they should be considered Classical. But the sonatas that belong to the middle and late periods sound different and Romantic, so they should be considered Early Romantic. Get my reasoning? Marcus2 20:36, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Famous sonatas

OK, I've added a section on Famous Piano Sonatas and filled in what I could think of, but it seems a bit disproportionate to the rest of the article. Perhaps this is because the article itself is so small. Should this section be given it's own article, to be included in the List of solo piano pieces? Crabbyass 23:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Satie

Shouldn't he be included?