Talk:Theatre organ

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Spelling

Theatre or theater? (See spelling differences). Theatre is spelled both ways through the text. I am not in favor of the first or the second, but I think the page should be consistent. Maniadis (talk) 02:31, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think probably the "theatre" spelling should be retained throughout the article. Two reasons -- 1, most early movie palaces used the word "theatre" in their name, instead of "theater;" and 2, official organizations, such as ATOS, continue to use the traditional "theatre" spelling. Erzahler (talk) 22:27, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The proper spelling would indeed seem to be "Theatre", as seen on the old brochures & sales literature of the period, coupled with the same spelling used upon the Venues of the time that had these instruments installed "As New" during their construction. (talk) 18:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup

I came across this page while creating an entry for Richard Simonton, founding member of the American Theatre Organ Society. This page a bit of a ramble, needs to be divided into sections addressing technical, historical and other aspects, so that readers can find the information they are looking for. It is also extremely shy on the technical aspects of theatre organs. I removed the references to the pizzeria in Pheonix, as it's primarily a commercial link, although a neat one.

I created "History" and "Future" sections and moved a few paragraphs around. Would like to see more history, particularly with respect to Robert Hope-Jones and the early pianolas. Not sure if the current ATOS statement belongs there or not. Suggestions for further material are welcome. Erzahler 04:40, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I revised the ATOS and beginning paragraphs, and added a "background" header. The article is somewhat more presentable now. More information is desirable, however. Also some theatre organ photos will be a good addition. I also changed the cleanup date to January 2006. Erzahler 22:10, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help, Autiger! :o) Erzahler 22:49, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just realized you were still editing this article right now. Apologies if I've stepped on anything you were working on and feel free to restore if you think I was overly aggressive on cuts. Autiger 22:51, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem. Looks good! Erzahler 22:52, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Still a bit of linking to do and general cleanup - the article text uses way too many scare quotes. That actually makes me think the text may have been a copyvio, but I haven't Googled for it yet. I just noticed Wurlitzer article needs attention too as long as you're into the subject matter. :-) Autiger 22:58, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The page is looking a lot better guys. Not knowing much about theatre organs, I was relictant to tackle it, but it looks like it's really shaping up. Glowimperial 00:36, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You changed the links to the Pipe Dreams programs. Did the original links not work? Erzahler 20:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the complements on the page, several people have worked on this! I also did a little editing on the Wurlitzer page. I'd like to see separate pages on some of the other organ builders also, such as Barton, Robert-Morton, Kimball, Moller, Christie, etc. These are some of the more major builders of theatre organs. Erzahler 20:58, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Additional: the article needs a better introduction, but I am at a loss as to how to write it. Perhaps someone can help me out here? Erzahler 23:33, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have created a new subject on the diaphone. You may want to look at it, and add anything you think may be useful. It is another stop found in theatre organs. Erzahler 22:09, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The page is looking good, people! I've been away for a while, but I'm glad to see the page has been cleaned up and looking more professional. Kudos to everyone for your hard work! :o) Erzahler 20:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Technical

I have added a "technical" section on the page, as I felt the page should have something about the technical aspects of the theatre organ. Please feel free to add to or refine anything you feel is necessary. Erzahler 22:50, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other

I don't know who "70.17.73.10" is, but please, if you are going to make changes, please state the nature of your changes. Also, let's leave the politics out of it. This article is to be a thesis on facts, not conjecture. I will be reverting to the previous edit, taking the biased information out concerning ATOS. Erzahler 18:19, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ATOS

Other than a link, is there really a need to have a detailed section on the American Theatre Organ Society on this page? It should probably have it's own page, given that it's a notable organisation with an interesting history. By havign a major section for it on this page, it also creates the POV that theatre organ culture is controlled or in some way totally dependent on the ATOS. Glowimperial 22:08, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have a point there. My main emphasis is merely to show that ATOS is involved in the preservation of theatre organs. I agree that ATOS should have its own page, but a brief mention of it should be made here. Erzahler 22:19, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm tempted to re-write the last sentence of your ATOS re-write as it's definitely POV (although I agree with it, and it's well written). If I can advise you to make the final sentence of that section less "shouldy", the section would be great. Glowimperial 18:39, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will give it some thought, but at the moment, my mind is a blank. I wanted to remove the heavy emphasis on ATOS per your previous suggestion, and this is all I have thought of so far. Erzahler 19:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a real need to reference the American Theatre Organ Society here, as you can't have one without the other. Theatre Organs have, by and large, been saved by the organization, and its members, and almost no one else. Also, I have put in information on the promotion of these instruments to the general public because it is a direct reference to the historical value and preservation efforts of these folks. An ATOS page would be just fine, but, you have to cross reference. And, nothing in my reference indicates that ATOS has a control on theatre organs, (though you might get that argument from some members!) But, the group is no different than any of the more than 15,000 national hobby associations that exist in this country.

Certainly ATOS deserves some mention, but I think it would be better served if it had its own page instead of writing something about it here. In the pipe organ category, you probably wouldn't expound on the AGO in the article, but you would probably mention it with reference to a separate article. Erzahler 19:03, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Theatre Organ Sound Files

If any of you are interested, I found some interesting theatre organ sound files to listen to. I didn't link them as I don't know if the link will work, so you'll have to paste them in your browser.

javascript:sfGo('http://organfax.co.uk/media/audio/realaudio/rodda-3.ram?pageid=av-summary-results-controller', 'www.organfax.co.uk?pageid=av-summary-results-controller')

javascript:sfGo('http://organfax.co.uk/media/audio/realaudio/rodda-1.ram?pageid=av-summary-results-controller', 'www.organfax.co.uk?pageid=av-summary-results-controller')

"Current Status" Section

This section in the article has been a subject of some conjecture. I have reworded the first paragraph to more accurately convey the intent I had for this section. The first paragraph NOW should include ONLY instruments that remain in their original installation AND still have their original specification. For that reason, the Wichita Wurlitzer and the El Capitan Wurlitzer have been removed as their specifications are no longer original (they have been modified by the addition of more ranks of pipes, thereby deviating from the builder's original specification.) I have added the Denver Paramount as that is the next largest organ I know of that still has its original specification and is in its originally-installed venue. If there are other larger original installation/original specification organs in existence, please feel free to add them. Remember, however, they MUST conform to the above criteria. Erzahler 18:35, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone knows of a Compton or Christie theatre organ in its original installation and still possessing its original specification, I'd like to have one of each added to the section in order to offer a variety of manufacturers. Remember, the organ MUST be in its original installation with its original builder's specification in order to be considered for inclusion. Erzahler 18:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When considering organs for inclusion in this section, please THOROUGHLY research the organ. Remember the qualifications: 1), the organ MUST be in its originally-installed venue; 2), the organ must be playable; 3), the organ must have it's ORIGINAL BUILDER'S SPECIFICATION (no ranks added or removed (replacement of electro-pneumatic relay with an electronic relay is permissible)); 4), the organ must be in a public venue. Erzahler 18:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced statements

Something should be done about the lack of sources for this article. I might do something on this if I am able, but I am quite limited on free time at the moment. It would be great if some of you folks who've worked on this article could provide some of your sources! EthanL (talk) 06:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC) A citation needed template is indicated after the statement of the exposure of the Theatre Organ to new audiences is happening. A mere reference to the ATOS website or journal and their chapter reports and articles should be more than sufficient.24.253.220.182 (talk) 06:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]