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Atilla Engin

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  • Dear Derild, I need your help and guidance.

The article Atilla Engin received a new warning of multiple issues which I'm having hard time to understand. I made significant contributions to it while I tried to keep both, the neutral point of view and the integrity of the article in tact. If asked, I can explain what I did and why I did. I would like you to visit the article and see if there is anything I did inappropriate. Would you please do that? Sincerely best. Fusion is the future (talk) 13:49, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, a copyedit to clean up grammar is neccassary which I will do in time. I will also try to clean up the tone and POV of the article. There are a few weird tone areas such as the very last line "most importantly, destroyed thousands of innocent lives. Art, theater and music could not survive neither. Recovery and healing process took some years." It's important, but not necassary for an article to emphasize this. Derild4921☼ 18:59, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Derild, I'll appreciate your input. Sincerely best. Fusion is the future (talk) 20:14, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dear Derild, thank you for copyediting. Two things I would like to point out:

1- The only group the artist had on his own name was Atilla Engin Group and he made 5 albums with this band. But now, it's not there anymore after the copyedit. He had two important groups in Denmark, namely MATAO and Atilla Engin Group. Is it possible to insert Atilla Engin Group back? After the copyedit, (in the beginning of the biography) the sentence goes such as:

"He formed several groups, including Matao[2][3]where (which???) he released his first album Turkish Delight."

Can we replace it with this:

He formed several groups, including Matao[2][3]where (which???) he released his first album Turkish Delight[4][5] and Atilla Engin Group which had five albums behind.[6] <--- Ref.#6

2- TAL VADYA UTSAV Festival in India. I can see that the names of Zakir Hussain, Babatunde Olatunji, Peter Giger and Trilok Gurtu are now excluded. In the reference#[11] from New Delhi concerts, you can see Babatunde Olatunji's name in the list along with Family Of Percussion (which was Peter Giger's group.) In terms of Zakir Hussain and Trilok Gurtu, Atilla Engin has provided the only picture he has (could be found in Wikipedia Commons) depicting those artists at the stage from Bombay concert in 1985 (Tal Vatya Udsav). The two-weeks-long festival took place in three major cities, Bombay, Bengalore and New Delhi. One hundred and twenty five world artists participated.

Question #1: Could you (I) include these names?

Question #2: If so, could I give a link to this very photo, depicting all of these artists at stage at the last concert in Bombay in 1985? Tal Vatya Udsav

Again, I do appreciate a lot your kind help and guidance Derild. Could I then remove these tags now, since you completed the copyedit? Sincerely best.Fusion is the future (talk) 18:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

      • Dear Derild, I NEED your help, URGENTLY. Please. A user called Pablo X's messing up with everything, I mean everything. Destroying my edits, the integrity of the article.

Please help. Fusion is the future (talk) 18:58, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your concern, but the user is merely following the Wikipedia style manual. As an editor if Wikipedia, you have to expect others to edit an article you are. If you feel troubled by the edits, talk on the talk page of the article. I'll try to help, but school is starting to much busier now. Derild4921☼ 13:35, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Atilla Engin; your copyedit

I have removed the {{goceinuse}} template from the article as there didn't seem to be any active editing going on. Some more is still needed though!  pablo 11:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll try but I'm on Wikibreak for school. I might help a bit on the weekends though. Derild4921☼ 13:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

While I am not trying to canvass support or against either way (even though I voted Support), I want to clarify something about the poll. The trial IS over, yes, but the question is should it be switched off before the release of the new software on or around November 9? This is by no means an extension of the trial, this is a what to do in the meantime, so your comment about it being an extended trial isn't really relevant. A new trial will begin with the new release in November.

Again, if based on this clarification you still say Close, then that is your vote. I just wanted to clarify as the comment did not seem to take the point of the poll into consideration. =) CycloneGU (talk) 19:39, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. I have retracted my vote and now stand neutral. Thanks for the clarification! Derild4921☼ 21:40, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Hello!

Hello! Thanks very much for the offer, however, I am not sure that I'm ready yet. I'm also rather busy now, so maybe in a few months. Thanks again, --The High Fin Sperm Whale 23:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Hopefully I'll remember a few months down the road. ;). Derild4921☼ 23:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Andrews

Well, since Tom himself didn't know, I guess I can't find a source :/ --Tucayo (talk) 21:26, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it doesn't have to be a source to confirm his position in band, just some source that gives any information about him. If nothing can be found then I'm sorry, the person's article does not belong on Wikipedia for now :(. Derild4921☼ 21:33, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Does this count? --Tucayo (talk) 21:40, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Anything counts for removing PROD's but make sure the source complies with WP:RS. Derild4921☼ 21:41, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks for all your help! --Tucayo (talk) 21:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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