Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Entrepreneurship policies in the Arab world

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Anyone is welcome to edit the pages in this project! Please "be bold" and just start. If you are new to Wikipedia, there are some helpful links on the main project page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaleMurphy (talk • contribs) 13:51, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note on template

As a new page patroller, I have just come across my first article created using Template:E-country template. The template includes references to this project and to the template itself. This violates the manual of style which states that references to Wikipedia or its mechanisms should be avoided in articles. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:57, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dan, thanks for your help! Much appreciated. It looks like the references of concern are these: "as part of the WikiProject on entrepreneurship policies in the Arab world. The article uses the categories and format of the {e-country template} for that project." Is there another way to indicate that the articles are part of the broader project? I wasn't sure what the options are, to indicate this. E.g., part of a series, or part of a project, and/or a category, or other ways, etc. (I've seen these, sometimes in a 'box' on the top right, sometimes in a 'header', but I don't recall offhand where or how to do it.) I'll be working on this for several years, with more countries to be added, so I appreciate your help in getting the foundations right. I'll edit the Template once I know. Thanks again! DaleMurphy (talk) 17:59, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you'll check with other WikiProjects, you'll note that most of them have created a Project Banner which is placed on an article's talk page to indicate its inclusion in the interests of that project. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. As I review the edit I just made on this page, I see that your project already has a banner (Template:ArabEntrep banner). Placing this banner on the talk page of an article identifies it as within the project's scope. No other marking is needed or appropriate. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:04, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your prompt reply, and the comments on the template's Discussion page, which are helpful for our projects' newest editors. "Other marking" seems to be common in other well-edited templates and projects. For example, see the template {{History of Ireland}}, used in a dozen or so pages (Economic history of Ireland, History of Ireland (400–800), List of Irish battles, etc.). This creates a text box in the upper right, for all articles in that project. It's not clear to me on what WP basis you say: "No other marking is [...] appropriate". Even the Wikipedia:Project page includes such a box, in a template for {{WikiProject Council Navigation}}. (The highest level of aggregation are portals, of which there are only 588. They also use navigation boxes.) DaleMurphy (talk) 19:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You'll notice that, if you look at the Template:WikiProject Council Navigation page and then click on the "What links here" link (in the toolbox, probably on the left margin of the page), none of the pages that link to that template are in the main article space. The other template you mentioned (Template:History of Ireland) is called a "navigation" template -- it allows users to easily navigate to other topics related to the history of Ireland. However, you'll also note that the navigation templates do not make any mention of the word "Wikipedia". They just direct readers to related articles. Further, the Template:History of Ireland template does not explicitly state that a given article is a member of any particular WikiProject; that information is reserved for the talk page. The general idea is that an article should not mention that it is part of Wikipedia, because any text posted in Wikipedia is available to be freely copied to any other location, in which case, its reference to being a part of Wikipedia would be meaningless. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Got it! Thanks, that's helpful. {{Navbox}}, that's the phrase I was looking for. Later, we'll work on a navigation template for our project that does not reference Wikipedia. This WP article will be useful for this: Wikipedia:Navigation templates. Thanks again! -- DaleMurphy (talk) 20:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]