Talk:Singing Tesla coil

Merger Proposal

Zeusaphone/Singing Tesla Coil: To me, these articles seem to be discussing essentially the same thing. If there are no objections to a merger, I suggest the pages be merged by someone who knows how to work the wiki magic. –erudition FISH 17:32, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I realise some editors seem to dislike the idea of combining these two articles, as evident from the repeated removal of the merger tag. In the interest of constructive work towards a consensus, I would like to ask the editors involved to leave a comment here on the talk page to elaborate on why they want the merger tag gone. If a constructive debate leads to a consensus of "no merger", I will not oppose the removal of the merger tags from both articles, but until that point, I see little purpose in removing the tag from only one of the articles, without explanation or even an edit summary. –erudition FISH 23:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support the merger, as they appear to me to be the same thing also. (Subject to revision if someone identifies a distinct difference between the two.) Neutral on which should be the main article title and which should be a redirect. Chuck (talk) 14:47, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I support the merger. I think the main title should be Zeusaphone, because it is a specific name, whereas "singing Tesla coil" is just a description. Calling the main page "Singing Tesla Coil" would be like calling the page for TNT "A Stable Explosive Based On Nitroglycerin". -Jtle515 (talk) 06:39, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't support the merger, "Singing Tesla Coil" was a term that was coined years before the zeusaphone existed. The term "zeusaphone" was created as method to sell a product. The most widely known name for the device is Singing Tesla Coil. Changing the title to "zeusaphone" would be the equivalent of calling cell phones "iphones", since the term "cellular phone" is a description, and not a title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Epilectrik (talk • contribs) 19:09, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not following your argument—it sounds like you would be fine with a merger as long as "Singing Tesla Coil" was the main article title. There's really three possible options here: 1) Merge the articles, with "Singing Tesla Coil" as the main title; 2) Merge the articles, with "Zeusaphone" as the main title; 3) do not merge the articles. Maybe I'm missing something, but your argument sounds like it is in support of option 1. Also, please don't remove the pointer to this discussion on the main page while the discussion is still going on. Chuck (talk) 18:29, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You obviously aren't reading the articles. The Zeusaphone article presents the idea as if it were brand new, has absolutely no verifiable references, and points directly to a product web page selling "zeusaphones". It is misleading, and does not reference the fact that the device existed for years before hand. The articles should not be merged. If someone wanted to add a foot note to the singing Tesla coil article saying something like, "These machines were also nick named "zeusaphone" after steve ward's duckon performance in 2007", I would have no problem with that, but that's all that should happen at most. If anything, the real question is whether or not the "Zeusaphone" article should exist in the first place. If the suggestion was to merge the "Singing Tesla coil" article with an article that actually meets basic wikipedia criteria, I would leave the merger tags, but this fairly obvious. Read the articles.