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Moved this from the article to here:

The background color of the flag shown on this page is too dark. The state colors chosen by George Washington for the colony's troops were light brown (buff) and blue. - Zoe

Could you provide a citation for the New Jersey per capita income passing that of Connecticut? While more recent figures may differ, the 2000 census results are pretty static after a certain point. -- John Owens 22:09 Apr 24, 2003 (UTC)

I'm from NJ myself, and it was a big deal when the census came out. It was all over our newspapers because we have a reputation for being a poor, dirty, scummy, urban state that no one wants to visit, so of course we're all proud to brag that we're the richest state in the country now. It wasn't by much; only like $1,000 more than Connecticut. I used to know exactly how to find the census statistics on their web site, but it changed and I'm having trouble finding it. I'm looking for an exact number. I'll update the page when I find it.


I have added to the History section. Before it had a reference to Berkeley selling his half, but no real explanation of who he was or how he got into the picture. So I have added the Charles to James to C&B and a teensy bit about the motivations and why it could be sold around like that. I realize that this section is getting larger and is rather tipped toward the 1600s but there is as yet no History of New Jersey article. I could start one, but it would have a similar tip. I am reluctant to start a History of....called "...Colonial New Jersey" or "...Proprietary New Jersey" or "...New Jersey (colonial)" Any guidance? ArloBee 14:39 17 May 2003 (UTC)

With the size of the section as it is, I think it should stay in this article for now. I think it should be significantly larger before being split off. If (or when) it does become a separate article, History of New Jersey sounds like the best title. Even if it is concentrated in one era, it's better to leave the possibility of expansion rather than limiting the range of the article too much. If it becomes very large at some point, it could be split further then. It's quite common to have articles that concentrate too much on one aspect of a subject, but that is getting fixed over time -- sannse 14:55 17 May 2003 (UTC)
Thanks, Sannse! ArloBee 13:04 19 May 2003 (UTC)
Would it be too complicated to embed HTML comments with recommended/desired sub-section headings? It might be complicated for non-HTML literate, but neater than a collection of stubs, and would provide jumping-off points for people. Just an idea. --ishu 13:06 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The list of small towns is a stub, in my view, and is at least as relevant as the smaller colleges, or (four) minor league baseball teams. As the list grows, we can move it to List of cities in New Jersey as for other states such as Maryland and Texas. The presence of the links on the main page encourages people to add to the list, and to modify pages for the towns with links. What's wikier than that? -- ishu 22:18, 13 Aug 2003 (UTC)

  • If you wanted to list all the towns in New Jersey you could do that on a seperate page, all you would need to do is write a script to go through all the county articles for New Jersey and then you'd have your very large list. The other state pages don't list such pointless things. The difference between colleges and baseball teams and towns is that there are hundreds of towns in New Jersey while only a few colleges and baseball teams, and they are already listed completely. I'm going to remove "Cherry Hill, Haddonfield, Murray Hill, and Voorhees" again unless someone comes up with a good reason for their inclusion M123 08:51, 14 Aug 2003 (UTC)


--- Some words that we New Jerseans pronounce differently: (Words in parenthesis are phoenetic spellings)

Chocolate --> "chawk-lit" Dog --> "Dawg" New Jersey --> "New Jer-zee" (The only people that say "Joy-zee" are from New "Yawk") Water --> "Wuh-ter" Because --> "Bee-cawze" Bagel --> "Bay-gull" (while the south Jerseans say "Beg-ull") Paul --> "Pawl"


Rutherford: "Ruddiferd". Only Rutherfordians say it that way, though. I have never heard "wuh-ter", although I have heard "oil" pronounced "earl". Others will testify that "earl" extends out of NJ to Stat'Nisland and beyond.

Please excuse, for they just had a lobotomy. Most of those words are only pronounced that way in North Jersey.

Misrepresenting the state flag

I was wondering how to also edit the state flag. The small version is closer to the actual representation - but it's still not right and then the enlarged version is very wrong. This is an article about how the state flag is often misrepresented and includes an ACTUAL photo so people can see the actual flag...AboutNewJersey.com - State Symbols and Flag

It would be nice if people actually presented the New Jersey flag properly. There are two ways the goddesses are represented on flag though - sometimes wearing a white gown and the other wearing a red gown. The red gown seems to be the most prevalent on the flag.