Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HeyMike!

HeyMike!

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Non-notable band. Only very-slim claim to notability is that two members were once part of other barely-notable bands. No recognized record label, no charted songs. Looks like a local bar band, and that's about it. (Contested speedy.) - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 17:39, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This band meets the wikipedia Criteria.

1. Has released records on a record label of note, Takeover Records
Is signed overseas to a subsidiary of Sony in Japan, Catch All Records.

2. Has former members in other notable bands, including a platinum selling band, Yellowcard and former Tooth and Nail band, Craig' Brother. A member, Ben Harper has won a Moon Man at the MTV music awards.

3. Has articles in press from years ago on VH1, punknews.org, Kantine in Germany

4. They've been a world touring band and if you did your research, you would see that they have probably never even played in a bar.Foley227 (talk) 20:41, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5. The person, real kentucky hick who is calling for deletion has called Capitol Record's alum, plantinum record selling, charted #1 on TRL band Yellowcard, "barely notable." HE gives no reference to 90's Punk rock band Craig's Brother. It's obvious this person does not know the punk rock scene very well. Foley227 (talk) 20:40, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from disparaging other editors. Continuing to do so will endanger your privilege of editing at Wikipedia. No, I don't know the punk rock scene, and I don't care to. It is up to the author to provide references from reliable sources, which were not present in the article. If you will add references from reliable sources (see this page) that prove what you have asserted above, I will likely change my mind. But the job falls to you - I won't do your research for you. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 04:38, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:34, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The artist profile on VH1 is a very reliable source and so is the article from punknews.org. VH1 has been a mainstay in the industry for more than 30 years and every notable punk rock band gets reviewed by punknews.org. I've also added international sources and the release date of HeyMike!'s full-length record from interpunk.com which is another huge source of punk rock info. These seem to be legitamate sources as described in wikipedia's rules on sources. I also don't want to use sources from I-tunes, rhapsody, napster etc.. because I'm not trying to sell the band's records. In other words, I've been selective in what types of sources I use.

Also:

I have researched wikipedia's source rules, the 12 criteria needed for notability and keeping a neutral point of view. I've also researched what a deletionist and an inclusionist is, so that I can better understand other editors points of view.

I would also like to point out that my intention is not to disparage an editor personally. I only take issue with the arguments that are in direct conflict with my arguments and/or not true. I think that calling this band a bar band should require some evidence as wikipedia is not an opinion based website. I also think that calling anyone names is disparaging in it's own right. I think every argument should be backed up. The other comment, "real kentucky hick", which might described as a disparaging remark is what this editors name, "realkyhick" stands for as described by his talk page. I appreciate the work done by this editor to keep wikipedia academic; but I feel the hours I have spent researching the subject, following wiki guidelines; and using credible sources speaks volumes to not only my knowledge of the subject, but the knowledge that is easily available due to the notability of the band.
Foley227 (talk) 06:14, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If this editor in anyway felt I was attacking him personally then I apologize as this was not my intention.

I just edited the sources so that it's in the format most people use on wikipedia. Every piece of information is credited to a credible source. I'll say this, you've got me working much harder than I ever thought I would when I started this the other night.