Talk:List of Dragon Ball Z Kai episodes

DBZ Kai article creation vote

Vote on whether or not to give DBZ Kai its own page (here). --FUNKAMATIC ~talk 03:48, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a democracy.Tintor2 (talk) 15:51, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Uncut Kai

Okay, I don't mean to seem rude, but what's up with constantly editing out my source showing that there is an uncut version of Kai? I've had people tell me it's a bad source, but they NEVER explain why. They just say it is, and then delete it. Let's look at the facts.

1) It's the OFFICIAL PRODUCT LISTING. That means it's a description that comes directly from the company itself, FUNimation. THEY are saying it's uncut, not a fan. Amazon Listing: http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Kai-Part-Blu-ray/dp/B003SE6VVC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1291764538&sr=8-2

2) In the interest of fairness, my original source, which linked to the first volume of Kai uncut, did not specifically mention that it was uncut. So I changed it to link to "Season 1, Part 2," which DOES specifically mention that it is uncut. And that's just on the official product description. Nevermind the giant sticker that flat-out says that it's uncut (you'll also notice that this giant sticker is on the front of the box on the official Amazon that people claim is a "bad source"): http://blog.funimation.com/2010/12/dragon-ball-z-kai-part-3-clips-posted/

They have not been clear--in the slightest--how this is poorly sourced. They just say it is, and accuse me of vandalism. However, I'm sympathetic to people only having so much room to write why they make certain edits in the edit box, so I figured I would ask people on the talk page, where we can write as elaborately as we want. Why, pray tell, are my sources bad? Unless somebody can provide me with a good explanation, I hardly see my research as vandalism and will post the source up again in a heartbeat. We can't just mislead people into thinking that Kai is shown on TV completely uncensored, because many fans have that impression right now. Failing to mention that it is edited on TV and uncut on DVD hardly makes the article comprehensive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBlackPaladin (talk • contribs) 01:09, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

First off, there is no such thing as an official Amazon. Most of the stuff that they feature is cut and paste. Second, at best, Amazon is a borderline source used only in certain situations. With that said, it not the heart of why I keep removing it. Adding just a link to a website within a reference tag is poor souring no matter how you look at it. Lastly, when someone asks you to stop an action and you continue the act, it is disruptive vandalism regardless of your intentions. Sarujo (talk) 19:23, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Sarujo is right about the source. Amazon product pages should only be used as last resort sources for uncontroversial information. However, using bare URLs as references is sloppy at worst and never an argument for removal of any information. Also, the behavior described is not vandalism. (See WP:NOTVAND.) What you've been doing is edit warring (which is forbidden). And with you I mean both of you. Goodraise 22:11, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

"Kai is only going to be 100 Episodes" is a Rumor. Stop adding it

For some reason, people keep adding in this little "Fact" that Kai will "reduce the total episode count from 291 to 100". This is blatantly false, and nobody has a real source on it, and I have two very good reasons Why:

1: The Happinet official DVD site currently says the Cell arc will be ending at episode 98

2: There is one more Arc after the Cell arc that can, under no circumstances, be fit into only one episode.

Aside from the fact that there is no reason for them to end the series at the end of the Cell arc, EITHER WAY the series is not the "100 episodes" this Article keeps stating. It didn't say "About 100" it said flatly, "100". Stop adding that until there is some kind of confirmation the series is (for SOME reason) ending at Cell. And then, if that happens, put the right number. 98.DemonRin (talk) 04:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

When the series was first announced in V Jump, it stated that 100 episodes were planed. This is fact. The line about being reduced from 291 to 100 comes from that article. So I'd highly suggest to to stop removing that statement as it is a highly sourced statement. If you have a problem with this proven factoid then I'd suggest taking it up with Shueisha. Granted additional information that the video distributors now say 99. Still you need reliable sources for that. Sarujo (talk) 05:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Has anyone actually seen this V-Jump article? Nothing confirming 100 episodes has been released in any official capacity. And considering we're in the late-80s and the Cell arc is nowhere near done... 82.3.109.181 (talk) 00:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I have the original V-Jump article and No, it wasn't stated in the article at all.. The Original V-Jump announcement did not say anything about the episode count. After it was released, people on 2ch (The Japanese message board this stuff gets leaked too) Started speculating it would be "Around 100 episodes", and the rumor spread like wildfire.

This is the original V-Jump Article. Where do you see ANYTHING about the Episode count?! Because I sure don't. Barring the fact that I can read it all, every time they reference a number, they use English Numbers, like 1,2,3, etc. Do you see "100" in there?!

Essentially, what happened is, Japanese fan rumor on 2ch started buzzing, and someone dropped the number "100" and since it's a nice round number, it stuck. But at this point, with the information we have now, the Official Japanese Happinet (Company doing the BDs/DVDs for Kai) website says the "Artificial Human - Cell Chapter" will end at episode 98.

It doesn't say "Series end" it says "BOX4 - 人造人間・セル編" (Box4 - Artificial Humans - Cell Chapter) ends at 98.

We also know that this series is intended to be an "HD Remaster and Recut of Dragon Ball Z That removes the filler". The Boo arc was NOT FILLER. There is one more story arc after the "Cell" chapter called the "Boo" Chapter. which we have no word on one way or the other yet. Why are you so dead-set on the series ending at 100? The source material is not gone yet, there is a WHOLE other ARC to do that CANNOT Be fit into two episodes. It was a bunch of Fan speculation on 2ch right around the time the V-Jump article hit that people like you erroneously state was part of the article. So PLEASE stop spreading this Fan-rumor.DemonRin (talk) 00:21, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Title Ep #17

I know the titles are similar but shouldn't this one read "Dawn of the Fierce Battle...The Planet of Hope Is Piccolo's Homeland"/"Dawn of a Fierce Battle...The Star of Hope Is Piccolo's Homeland"
The pattern established seems to be have both the translated and dubbed titles even if they are basically the same (for example see eps #20 or better yet #34). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.254.77.254 (talk) 21:00, 15 December 2010 (UTC)