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Japanese business income 2

The answer contradicts the fact. As for WCJ2009, Wikimedia Foundation does a patent of the holding right to them.Komura of Wikimedia Foundation permitted this[1].In the event of wikipedia 10 in kyoto, Wikimedia Foundation is written that the project composition was done as "Sponsors"[2].Wikimedia Foundation offered T-shirt and the pin batch.I sent your video visit[3].Director of foundation Ting Chen participated over a video telephone using Skype.

FormerIP: A foundation provides it with the business trip travel expenses of Jay Walsh.Based on a Japanese price level, I think that I am non-reasonable.Severe use is not decided though it is written that the residuary estate belongs to the group, and will be used it for those cost in the future. The group may donate to the religious organization and the political party for instance, and you are supposed buy an individual personal computer.The meeting place is IZAKAYA called The WATAMI[4]. IZAKAYA is a bar where plonk and meal are sold.Drinking is possible in a fixed amount system if order NOMIHODAI.In this store, the system is　[5].Because this shop is a very cheap shop, it is low fare.--山吹色の御菓子 (talk) 12:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your concern, but I think you are wrong. First, to repeat, the participation of some members of staff in an event does not mean that the event is organized by the Wikimedia Foundation. I made a video which was made available freely, and it was viewed by dozens or possibly hundreds of different local events large and small. However, none of that is really relevant because I agree that if local events are being organized by community members, and there is some money involved in the organization, I want people to be thoughtful and responsible about it.
It occurs to me, then, that you are asking the wrong people and in the wrong place. This is English Wikipedia, and it seems obvious to me that no one here knows any more about this than I do.
Have you asked politely to the people who actually organized the meeting? How much money was collected, how much was spent, and what is to be done with the surplus?
In my very long experience, I would suggest that everything is usually completely fine in situations like this. The party was organized, everyone had a good time, some small amount of money was left over, someone has the money, and it will be used for some future event. I really doubt if there is a problem here.
If you come to them as you have come to me, I don't blame them for not answering. You accused me of pocketing the money personally for an event I had no knowledge about, an outrageous accusation. If you approach people in that manner, they are likely to simply ignore you for being rude.
Here is another idea: why don't you find some member of the Japanese Wikipedia community who speaks very good English, and ask them to help you communicate with me. Your posts here read like they were made with the help of Google translate. That can be perfectly fine, but it does mean that some of your sentences don't always make sense. For example, when you write "I think that I am non-reasonable" you almost certainly meant to say the opposite: "I think that I am reasonable". I fear that other bits of meaning may be getting lost in translation.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 14:10, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is correct that you think.However, the information addressee of the event has only here.I paid propriety four months ago, and inquired of the group.However, there was no response at all.It was written the Wikimedia　foundation official meeting in the document that they had made.Permission by the foundation was written giving, the logo was used, and it was confusing.You take responsibility for having consented tacitly to it.
You gave a patent. To the Japanese group. The abandonment of the authority, a domain transfer, transfer of the management."English speaker" that you say are their all groups. In Japanese Wikipedia, nobody helps.
You have the responsibility of proving the accountability and the fact. In Japan when you granted the group a management right transfer and official permission. --山吹色の御菓子 (talk) 19:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am going to ask someone with dual linguistic skills to assist, as there seem to be nuances of meaning here that are not properly understood on both sides. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Check here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:User_ja . It shouldn't be too hard to find somebody to translate. 山吹色の御菓子, if you can try posting your concern here in Japanese, I'm sure someone will come along and translate it for you. Zaereth (talk) 21:22, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What would be nice for this is a script or tool that can identify users who are in both of two given categories, and also have edited within the last week (or similar). Anyway I've dropped an email to one such person. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Did someone call for a translator? 通訳者が必要のようですね。Just so everyone knows, I was contacted by Demiurge1000 and do not yet have a grasp of the details of the argument. 最初に断っておきますが、今日Demiurge1000さんに頼まれてまだ議論の内容を把握していません。I will just try to convey what 山吹色の御菓子 wants to say. I don't have a lot of time to put into this. この件にかけられる時間が限られているので、とりあえず山吹色の御菓子さんの言い分を皆さんに伝えておきたいと思います。 So, maybe 山吹色の御菓子 can tell me in Japanese what s/he wants to say on my own talk page. まずは山吹色の御菓子さんに日本語でご自分の言い分を僕のTalkページにて教えていただければと思います。よろしくお願いします。Matt Thorn (talk) 14:57, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Whoa. I just did some digging. This person, 山吹色の御菓子, has apparently been banned from contributing to the Japanese version of Wikipedia. I don't know why yet, but it seems s/he is basically venting here because the folks on the Japanese side have had enough of him/her. In short, and I apologize for being blunt, it would seem the person may be a kook. Sorry, I just call them as I see them.Matt Thorn (talk) 16:02, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, his rolling up here and accusing me of pocketing the money he's concerned about was not a good sign, but I say assume good faith. He does raise a valid question: if someone is having events in the name of the Foundation and turning a profit, then who is it and where is the money going? My point is: it's perfectly valid to ask that question; it is not valid to assume the worst and issue random accusations.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 18:42, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have scanned theJapanese material (There's a lot of it) that 山吹色の御菓子 refers to. It's a lot of good-faith, hair-splitting discussion that you see on Wikipedia anywhere. I see no sign of the sort of coup 山吹色の御菓子 describes. I haven't read it all, but I've read enough to conclude that 山吹色の御菓子 threw around a lot of unsubstantiated accusations that are no more coherent in Japanese than in English, and eventually made such a nuisance of himself that he was banned. If there was a genuine faction of ja.wikipedia editors who felt something sketchy was going on, you would be hearing from more than 山吹色の御菓子. He says there was plenty of dissent. There was plenty of discussion, and as far as I can tell, consensus was reached, and 山吹色の御菓子 didn't like it. He is acting entirely on his own. He has blown up the tab from a meeting at a pub to the scale of a JFK assassination conspiracy. Nothing to see here, folks.Matt Thorn (talk) 02:22, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Matt. You do know, of course, that you've accidentally volunteered to help me whenever something interesting and complex is going on in Japanese Wikipedia. :p--Jimbo Wales (talk) 02:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oops. Matt Thorn (talk) 03:26, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry, Matt. Jimmy will be able to pay you using cash from the Japanese conferences, which is sitting in a secret Hamas-linked Swiss bank account. --FormerIP (talk) 03:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Haha. FormerIP, I think that's supposed to be a secret. It is a secret, that's what I said...--FormerIP (talk) 04:06, 30 January 2011 (UTC) UPDATE: I read the discussion on the proposal to block 山吹色の御菓子 indefinitely. Contributors were nearly unanimous in support of the indefinite block. Even those opposed agree that 山吹色の御菓子 is a serious pest, but felt he should be given a limited ban of several months. No one took his side or defended him. The proposal was introduced on April 19, 2010, and approved on July 7, 2010.Matt Thorn (talk) 03:54, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Matt Thorn. Please do not describe my impression but translate the fact. It is necessary to translate taking the responsibility as a specialist.In Japanese Wikipedia,Translate paging web all.the translation like Matt Thorn that is irresponsible, and fabricated is done, and the intention of Jimbo is not transmitted either. --山吹色の御菓子 (talk) 02:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A charitable idea

I saw this on CNN a couple days ago, and I was thinking...

Why not hire people who are homeless, disabled or economically disadvantaged to do automated tasks on Wikipedia that are currently done by robots? It could also be a way of getting more people to donate to Wikipedia if people could sponsor a real human being and know that they're doing more than just helping to build an online encyclopedia... 173.66.197.27 (talk) 18:10, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because not all bot-related actions are done by bots, especially wrt the antivandalism bots. —Jeremy (v^_^v Hyper Combo K.O.!) 03:41, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I like my idea better. ;) -- œ™ 07:50, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that letting a human do a job a machine can do faster and easier is degrading to the humanity of the person doing such jobs. If you want to show that the homeless, disabled or economically disadvantaged are perfectly able to do a valuable job, or provide a valuable service, don't let them do jobs that don't have to be done by humans, that have no added value. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:18, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It might sound crazy, but humans could do the job faster and easier if they organized well-enough.
I think letting people suffer and starve to death for the sake of making an efficient encyclopedia is degrading to humanity... probably a reason why I will never donate. 173.66.197.27 (talk) 21:18, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not necessarily. Recent Changes patrollers have a hard enough time dealing with vandalism, and when you factor in the same inherent bias each person has, I can see how easily this idea can and will be turned on its head, especially if an article about something the homeless person(s) hate shows up on the RC feed. A bot's coding doesn't permit such bias, and if a bot reverts in error the coder fixes it to minimize instances of that false-positive. In addition, most bot tasks are so mind-crushingly dull having them relegated to a human has been outlawed in 43 states as a form of slavery. :P —Jeremy (v^_^v Hyper Combo K.O.!) 04:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

annoying orange

for the annoying orange, i think the character appearances should be like this:


for the annoying orange: 1 appearance to be a main character

for knife: 1 character appearance to be a main character (in chopping and character mode)

for grapefruit (and any other grapefruit family member in the series): 1 appearance to be a minor character, 3 appearances to be a secondary character, and 5 appearances to be a main character

liam the leprechaun: 1 appearance to be a minor character, 3 appearances to be a secondary character, 5 appearances to be a main character, and i also think that he should be the secondary antonagest (how do u spell that again?) (if that isn't there)

and any other characters: 1 appearance to be a minor character, 3 appearances to be a secondary character, and 5 appearances to be a main character.


please go talk to an administrator that knows the annoying orange and tell him or her "do u know the annoying orange? if so, please go to my talk page.".

and tell him to reply

69.236.160.181 (talk) 20:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. if u reply here, please leave a talkback note on my talk.

I don't think Jimbo has been involved in editing The Annoying Orange so you might be better off discussing article improvements on the talk page for the article instead of here. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Contents pages navigation proposal

A proposal to add topical links to all of the contents pages has been made. As part of that proposal, the navigation bar at the top of these contents pages would look like this.


All who read this invitation, please respond to the proposal, Portal talk:Contents#Adding topical links to contents pages navigational headers and footers, as you see fit. Regards, RichardF (talk) 15:10, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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