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Thanks...

...for your contribution to the article Akita Inu!

Would you mind helping out over here?

I've been working on translating the Speculative fiction portal to JAWIKI, but someone is causing problems with this. Will you come help out over here? I appreciate any help. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:13, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Oda Mari. You have new messages at Benlisquare's talk page.
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Japanese swords (external links)

I noticed that you removed two external links as not appropriate, did you go to the links and look at them? One link explained why some ww2 Japanese swords are considered to be nihonto and why some are not actually traditionally made blades, the other link is to the largest forum in the world for the discussion of nihonto, this forum has some of the worlds foremost experts in nihonto participating including Clive Sinclaire and Ian Bottomley. If you remove these links then I suggest that you take a close look at the other external links also. Instead of removing helpful links have you thought about doing some reading on the subject and adding some references? The whole article on Japanese swords as huge sections with no references backing up the information in the article Samuraiantiqueworld (talk) 05:52, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I went to the links. The first one is selling products and the forum requires registration. That is why I removed them. Please read Wikipedia:External links. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 06:06, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • The nihonto forum does not REQUIRE registration to view (Links to sites that require payment or registration to view the relevant content) only to post. Two other external links>> (About Japanese Katana Swords) and (Japanese Samurai Swords and Ninja Techniques) have no real research and seem to be selling or promoting the sale of swords etc and they seem to fall in this category>>> (Any site that misleads the reader by use of factually inaccurate material or unverifiable research) I suggest that they also be removed...and since you are so interested in wikipedia rules and helping the article...do you know what "unreferenced and unverifiable research" means? The whole article on Japanese swords is full of inaccurate and unreferenced information...I think that is more important than a couple of links, have you thought about doing some research and adding some references or removing inaccurate information based of research? If you look on the discussion page for Japanese swords you will see a whole list of books that can be used for citations and references for editors who actually want to help the article be adding citations and references.Samuraiantiqueworld (talk) 08:48, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Then add the forum to the EL section. But not the personal site, please. When you find inappropriate ELs, you can remove them. And please remember, you can ask me anything, but it's only I who decide what I'd do and what I don't at WP. Best regards. Oda Mari (talk) 09:55, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Your right about the other site, I did not think about the commercial aspects,..of course your the one to decide what to do, nothing personal....I just get tired of seeing more and more unreferenced information added to articles with no one willing to cite or find references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samuraiantiqueworld (talk • contribs) 02:41, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your revert on Tokyo

Hi Mari. You reverted an edit to Tokyo saying "Macron is not needed".[1] However it is not an English word but a rōmaji. See template:nihongo. Regards, ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 07:32, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Phoenix. I see. I reverted my edit. Thank you for pointing that out. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 09:22, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

January 2011

Hi Oda Mari,

It appears to me that you do not absolutely understand what you've been doing with regards to some of your actions. I'd advise you to read some relevant contents more carefully before making accusations of personal attacks. After all, the term "idiots" was only used a handful of times and never specifically applied to anyone.

At the same time, you should be a bit more careful in your thought process when it comes to the Remin Ribao article. It was already stated and illustrated beyond a doubt that the article had never made a connection between the Japanese Okinawa Prefecture and the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands. This is also something you've agreed upon.

Since the Japanese reference articles and the associated sentences that dealt with the Remin Ribao figured argued Japanese sovereignty of these islands on the basis of the seeming Okinawa association (that we agreed was wrong or made-up), then they are also wrong by extension. Being a reputable Wikipedia editor, I believe you would be more familiar than I am to what contents should belong in Wikipedia and not. So, perhaps you'd have to show me why in this case you'd feel fraudulent ideas and references based on known fallacies deserve to remain in Wikipedia.

I understand that there can be idiots that will unrelentingly protect their favourite fantasies of reality (such as how Nanking Massacre never happened or how atomic bombs were dropped on non-belligerent victim nations in WWII), but I trust you are an editor with a great sense of honour and integrity who'd have a great justification for all this.

Oh by the way, I intend to add back some of the October protest contents that we discussed in the past. I believe our agreement is that all but the Swastika-related content was fair game. What do you think? Bobthefish2 (talk) 22:09, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not talk about any editors you have disputes with. As for the content issues such as Remin Ribao and the October protests, please use the article talk page and ask for consensus. This is not the place. Oda Mari (talk) 18:46, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My dear Oda Mari, I appreciate your efforts in educating me on Wikipedia matters. But unfortunately, I don't see a need to restrict myself from commenting about other editors. After all, my conduct is considered acceptable within the bounds of Wikipedia policies. Should you feel otherwise, you are welcomed to file a complaint to an admin and have him or her sort the issue out for you.
As for the issue that involved Remin Ribao, I need to remind you that it was agreed that the translation was incorrect. If you feel a need to conspire with like-minded editors to retain misinformation within Wikipedia articles, you are welcomed to do so. My reminder for you is that the issue was well-discussed and no legitimate objections were raised. Considering that this is an unambiguous case of fraudulent information, I find it doubtful that a consensus is needed.
But you are right, I feel it is possibly inappropriate to delete such unambiguously faulty information in the face of such strong opposition from highly passionate editors. I'd say I should explore the option of WP:Arbitration and advise the ban of certain obstructive individuals who somehow had developed an unfortunate fetish for opposing appropriate editorial processes. Do you happen to have the capacity of educating me on how to go through such a process? Your experience as a lawyer of Wikipedia policies is likely second to none.

Best. Bobthefish2 (talk) 21:22, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've answered Fish's question here. -- Hoary (talk) 15:19, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikisource

Image of page in January 8, 1953 edition of the People's Daily.

Oda Mari -- I was vexed by what I read about you and me here. In the context this short diff creates, a meaningful way to demonstrate "good faith and editorial integrity" is by enhancing and highlighting "all contents and references associated with that Remin Ribao article."

This also happens to be consistent with core wiki-policies.

Perhaps you did not know that the January 8, 1953 article has been uploaded to Chinese Wikisource and to Japanese Wikisource?

I will try to figure out how to add an appropriate English translation to the English Wikisource. Perhaps it can be easily accomplished. We'll see. --Tenmei (talk) 20:22, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikisource has original text related to this article:
The first step in a constructive direction. --Tenmei (talk) 21:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the message. I join the discussion. But as for the English translation, I'm not sure how much I can help as en and zh are not my first language. Oda Mari (talk) 09:51, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that the burden of proof is on Bobthefish2. You don't need to translate the article. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:05, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Get out of bed

[walks into Oda's bedroom, making furnace noises through snuffle] f-f-f-f-f-f [in a normal voice] And again! [makes furnace noises through snuffle] f-f-f-f-f-f-f [pokes Oda with snuffle, Oda jumps out of bed] --Vampire Snuffleupagus (talk) 15:39, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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