Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Santana discography/archive3

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by The Rambling Man 18:55, 8 February 2011 [1].

Santana discography[edit]

Nominator(s): ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 22:10, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Third and hopefully last FLC for this list. Let's hope there will be confidable reviewer. Let's try it from the second archive: ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 22:10, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this discography for the second time, after I took an intensive clean-up. It will be the first discography that could be a FL by a mexian artist and the first in the portal. ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 15:23, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Exasperated but non-binding oppose: Well, "hopefully last FLC" is something I can agree with. What is "confidable reviewer"? Why do you mention the second archive? Why do you follow your mention of the second archive with your sig? When you say you are "nominating this discography for the second time", don't you really mean "third"? Is "Mexian" just a typo?

Why do you keep using "5× Multi-Platinum" when the redundancy of that expression has already been explained to you? How many times was The Very Best of Santana released? It appears that The Live Adventures of Mike Bloomfield and Al Kooper listed in Collaboration albums included only Carlos, not the band Santana, so shouldn't it be removed? Same with "Samba Pa Ti" in the Singles table. How about all the other albums and singles (which I did not check)? How did "Put Your Lights On" peak at 118 on the Hot 100? If "Soul Sacrifice", "Samba Pa Ti", "Song of the Wind", etc., aren't singles, why are they listed in the Singles table? Of what use is the note "This song/album received awards"? Why are you using the German version of the Swiss charts source (and not marking it as German), instead of the English version? Why do you keep making up titles for references in articles you nominate at FLC? You should review the order of the certs listings, and take a look at WP:DISCOGSTYLE at least once. The lead still needs corrections to dashes, hyphens, caps and italics in addition to some regular editing.

Conclusion: Maybe it would be a more efficient use of your time if you would focus more on articles you can get to GA status rather than trying to get something featured. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 00:02, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

hello John, nice to see you again! Ok let's start:

I didn't know the word in english, so I pick up a random word from this dictionary. I continue the FLC, because I am of the opinion that the 2nd was too sluggish. Anyway: I removed the "Multi" before the "Platinum". I deleted the wrong row mention The Very Best of Santana the second time. I moved albums released by Carlos not by the band. Samba Pa Ti is actually released by the band. You can trust me about the charts; I made it myself not like in the other discogs. ~~The chart is actually Billboard 200, not Hot 100, forgot to replace the link there.~~ All songs that are charted should be provided, not only singles. I added into the section heading "and other charted songs". The sentence "This song/album received awards" provide a link to the awards by the group to gain entry what the band has received. Changed into English version. What is "keep making up"? Certs are in alphabetically order and please don't link WP:DISCOGSTYLE here; I know it from the beginning to the end. The lead was CE, but I will look at it more deeply. Yes, in the near future I will nominate articles into GA.

Thank you for you comments!

Oppose and, again, suggest withdrawal. Apart from JohnFromPinckney's spot-on comments, there is the issue of the awful lead. Your continued insistence to pipe the RIAA as "national American certification" puzzles me, as does the relevance of Rolling Stone ranking the band's guitarist as the 15th greatest ever. Please review eachof the albums on this list, and double-check whether it instead belongs to Carlos Santana the guitarist's discography. I opened one link at random, and it certainly seemed so. Mirroring what John said, I suggest that you take on less ambitious projects (artists with 4–5 studio albums) to start with, and build your skills up from there.—indopug (talk) 05:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well the "awful" lead was deceived a CE. "national American certification" is completely right; the user wants to know what RIAA is in the list or article and not an abbreviation. I still don't know what's your problem here. I deleted the sentence from Rolling Stones. I moved some to Carlos Santana discography and reviewed all albums and songs.

Thank you for your comments!-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 09:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed that there's a Santana videography that contains only 24 items. That should be merged with this article.—indopug (talk) 05:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are many more than 24 items (the article is currently a stub of some videos). I moved them from this discography to "Santana videography" some months ago, and I think it was a good idea. Also I live in Germany and I can't watch music videos from MTV or VH1; in the official website there are videos but without director and I don't know other sites that includes director. If you know some without territorial copyright please post them here.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 14:29, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I also added language parameters and checked everything. Hopefully now it has FL status.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 10:23, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - the "US" column in the singles table links to the Billboard 200, but that is an albums chart. Billboard's chart for singles is the Hot 100. As that name suggests, it only has 100 places, so how can songs have charted at numbers 114, 117 and 118 on a chart with 100 places......? Also, "Ya Yo Me Curé" has note [A] against it, which apparently means that it was not a single but did chart........except that there are no chart positions listed for it. So did it chart or not........? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:21, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I asked the wikipedian who has put this songs [2].-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 13:36, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - They are single, see talk page section above.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 15:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Conversation-with-oneself-commentThe lead was once again copy-edited and I hope this list won't fail like the last time (I want win the WikiCup and I have no points D:!) I even make a monolog with myself, because the FLC is very toting and boring.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 09:21, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - all the sources used in the tables cover only chart positions - what is sourcing all the albums and singles that didn't chart.........? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:16, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't know what do you mean. All albums and singles were charted, but since only 10 chart columns are allowed, I added the most relevant charts. What sources you exactly want to view?-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 13:32, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - There need to be sources to confirm that all the non-charting albums/singles actually existed. If they are listed on the "complete discography" webpage currently shown as ref 1, simply change that to a General reference, that should cover it -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - Changed. Ref 1 only view the albums.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 14:47, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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