Talk:Richard Ramirez
Can we get some more current information on this guy, such as, say, psychiatric evaluations? --Orborde 06:22, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
This is a selected entry at Template:March 17 selected anniversaries (may be in HTML comment)
I just want to say that this guy scared the shit out of millions of Californians for half a year. Since I was living in California at the time this article probably does have some minor NPOV problems. Please update the article as needed. --mav
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Removed from article:
- Ramirez's first known murder was of a 50-year old clown name Frank Toots. He was raped and stuffed in a trunk.
This needs a citation - I could find no mention of a "Frank Toots" associated with anybody named "Ramirez" on the Internet.[1] -mav 05:26, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
The March 17 article says "1985 - Serial killer Richard Ramirez commits his first two murders", while the main article says "Ramirez committed his third known murder on March 17". Which one is it? -- Card 18:25, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Why is he listed under "Gay, Lesbian, or Bisexual People" and yet, nothing is mentioned of this fact in the article? - good question, i've removed it until somebody can provide some examples of his bisexuality
Why isn't this guy dead yet? -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 05:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Copyright Infrigement
I believe portions of this page have been lifted from CourtTVs Crime Library website. Specifically, the Trial and conviction section contains sentences that are nearly identical to sentences from the Crime Library site. For example:
On August 3, 1988, the Los Angeles Times reported that jail employees had overheard a plan by Ramirez to shoot and kill the prosecutor with a gun that someone was going to smuggle to him in the courtroom. A metal detector was installed outside the courtroom and even the lawyers were searched.
is very similiar to the fourth paragraph on this page:
On August 3, the LA Times reported that jail employees had overheard a plan by Ramirez to shoot and kill the prosecutor with a gun that someone was going to slip him in the courtroom. A metal detector was installed outside the courtroom and even the lawyers were searched. Ramirez seemed surprised, and no gun was ever found.
Another example:
On August 14, the trial was interrupted because juror Ms. Phyllis Singletary did not arrive. That day she was found dead in her apartment. The jury was terrified; they could not help but wonder if Ramirez had somehow directed this event from inside his prison cell and if he might have something similar done to another of them. She had been shot and killed by her boyfriend, who later killed himself with the same weapon in a hotel. The alternate juror who replaced Singletary was so afraid she could not even walk to her place.
is similiar to the twenty-fourth paragraph on the same page:
Judge Tynan called them into court the next day and told them that Ms. Singletary had been shot by an abusive boyfriend. He assured them the incident was unrelated to the case. An alternate was chosen to replace her, although the woman was so overcome with fear she could not walk to her place. Yet more news was forthcoming. Ms. Singletary's boyfriend used the same weapon with which he'd killed her to commit suicide in a hotel. He left behind his written confession. They had been arguing over the Ramirez case and he had become enraged by her disapproval of Ramirez's lawyers.
There are other examples as well. Not all of them are as cut-and-dry as these, however, and I do not feel qualified to rewrite anything. 209.51.77.64 23:49, 28 February 2006 (UTC)