User talk:Town,WP

== June 2010 ==

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did with this edit to Deep Water (Peter Corris novel), is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources, please take this opportunity to add references to the article.   — Jeff G. ツ 06:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation

Deep Water (Peter Corris novel), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Thank you for helping Wikipedia! avs5221^(t|c) 23:12, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Pending changes/Straw poll on interim usage

Hi. As you recently commented in the straw poll regarding the ongoing usage and trial of Pending changes, this is to notify you that there is an interim straw poll with regard to keeping the tool switched on or switching it off while improvements are worked on and due for release on November 9, 2010. This new poll is only in regard to this issue and sets no precedent for any future usage. Your input on this issue is greatly appreciated. Off2riorob (talk) 23:51, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Question

{{helpme}} I don't know what half the lingo means, (TROLL, DRAMA,...). Does it make people mad it you see a comment on there talk page and want to say something, an opinion? It's like butting in I suppose, but sometimes I see where I would like to say something. If it is bad and there is a name. what is it? Town,WP (talk) 03:58, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Comment on content, but not on people.

Please see Wikipedia:No personal attacks and Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines.

For "TROLL" see WP:TROLL, for "DRAMA", see WP:DRAMA. And for any other such acronyms, just put "WP:" followed by the letters into the Wikipedia search box. For example, if I say "WTF", try putting "WP:WTF" into the search box, to find the page WP:WTF.  Chzz  ►  04:27, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Alright, that's pretty good. Thanks for helping me. Town,WP (talk) 15:25, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Comment on Pending Changes proposal

I would appreciate it if you would clarify your comment at Wikipedia:Pending changes/Request for Comment February 2011. We're trying to arrive at a consensus, which is how Wikipedia normally works. It's not a poll, so just putting your name in the oppose section without a clear rationale is a bit of a problem. You indicated that "if there was a good reason [to stop the trial], it would be easily seen". However, this is in conflict with your statement that you "haven't read enough about this". There are at least a dozen reasons articulated on the page for why the trial should be stopped. Have you not read the page, or was your comment about reading referring to something else? It's fine if you have read the reasons and reject them; it's just not clear if this is the case. Thank you. —UncleDouggie (talk) 08:28, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Town, you said, in your oppose, you couldn't see a clear reason - and I'm not surprised; sadly, the whole debate has got really complicated. So - let me try and give a simple, clear reason;

• June 2010, the community agreed to a 2-month trial. PC was applied to around 900 articles. At the end of the trial, PC should have been removed unless there was clear approval [1] - it was not removed.
• There's been lots of argument about it, ever since. In September, a "straw poll" got 60% support for letting it run a little bit longer, with a hard-stop date of 31 December 2010 (waiting for a new version of the software). (Poll)
• There were some updates, but not the promised 'new version'.
• Current situation: PC is on 950 articles. Nobody really knows if it can, or cannot be used. Nor can we get any agreement on that.

It's all a mess.

Personally, I think the only possible way we're ever going to sort out the mess is, to remove the current use. And then, possibly, we might be able to start proposing ideas - on how it could be used.

I honestly think that, if we don't remove it, we'll just continue arguing about this, forever.

But...the RfC is a discussion - so if you have any ideas at all, how we might resolve the deadlock, please say so - on WP:PCRFC.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  11:47, 27 March 2011 (UTC)