User talk:Rememberway
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Tip
When you leave a multi-paragraph comment like this one on a talk page, it's usually easier for people to read the comment if you sign only the last paragraph. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Blocked
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Atama頭 21:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Rememberway (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I haven't violated any topic bans at all, they all timed out months before. I'm currently under no topic restrictions at all, and I haven't violated them at any point. I notice that Atma claims on the sockpuppet page that I violated them numerous times, if so he can provide diffs, I simply haven't done so, he's either mistaken or lying. This account is my account, not an alternate, I avoided drawing attention to it, because of harassment by people like Cuchullain wandering around behind me and doing WP:POINTy reverts for trivial edits. You can continue the (pointless) unlimited ban if you want, but given I can create new accounts at the drop of a hat, I'm not really that bothered. It's not like I'm vandalising anything, and frankly, I don't really care, if I announce who I am I get followed around by hate-groupies. So why should I play your daft games?
Accept reason:
We'll give you another chance, sure. Just follow the same rules as any other editor please. Prodego talk 03:16, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Per this discussion you are community banned from using any undisclosed alternate accounts, and that ban has no expiration. So to whom did you disclose this account when it was created? -- Atama頭 21:52, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- On another review, I may have erred in stating that you had violated either of the other 2 topic bans during the time the ban was in effect. Your first ban was still violated, quite clearly, with the creation of this undisclosed alternate account. Aside from all of this, you're engaging in the exact same behavior that led to the initial ban discussion in the first place (see here and here for examples). -- Atama頭 22:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- But those restrictions are gone completely months ago.Rememberway (talk) 22:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- Look as an example of what I have to put up with, Cuchullain guessed who I was and has already been following me around and revert warring trivial edits [1][2] but another well established editor didn't think much of his antics:[3] If I announce my accounts it all just gets worse. I don't respect that part of the block, my account(s) had done nothing worth a permanent ban, and even the block can be seen as a pattern of deliberate continuation of harassment. There's a huge difference between using a 'sockpuppet' to vote multiple different ways, and to avoid people following you around and revert warring you.Rememberway (talk) 22:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- The bottom line is that I'm sure I haven't done anything being permabanned for, but that's your call I guess.Rememberway (talk) 22:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- There were concerns that your scrambling of your original account password would be a de facto permaban. So there were suggestions there on how you could return under a new account if you chose to. Rather than doing what was suggested there, or following any of the legitimate uses of an alternate account at WP:SOCK, you created a new account and edited for almost 9 months without informing anyone. I'd be inclined to be more lenient if you hadn't recently repeated the behavior that led to your bans in the first place, and honestly you might not have been found out if you hadn't done that either. Your unblock request is still in place and other administrators have a chance to review your situation. Just FYI, the standard procedure when blocking a sockpuppet is to blank and redirect the talk page, but I intentionally avoided that to give you a chance to plead your case if you chose to, and also because normally a person is encouraged to use their original account's talk page using the original account rather then the new account, but in your case of course that can't happen. -- Atama頭 22:54, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- The bottom line is that I'm sure I haven't done anything being permabanned for, but that's your call I guess.Rememberway (talk) 22:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's not like Rememberway is being banned for other than being Wolfkeeper. You can do what you want, but as before, but to the extent it's objectively a stupid overreaction I'll ignore it. I know as well as you do that being an administrator doesn't make you omnipotent. To the extent that it's fair I'll follow it. I don't consider having to declare that my account is associated with Wolfkeeper is fair.Rememberway (talk) 23:59, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Rememberway, if you're concerned about harassment, you could always disclose your connection to your original account to ArbCom via email. --Tathar (talk) 00:55, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I strongly recommend that. It will save you a lot of grief in the future and takes just a couple of minutes to do.
- As I said before, if you can help it, try not to push the DICTDEF thing too much. This is just personal advice, one person to another. I think you might be okay if you can do that, again I think that's what caused people to figure out who you were in the first place. -- Atama頭 17:23, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'll leave it at the moment, and carry on with this as my main account, everyone knows it's me anyway at the moment. But depending on how it goes I may shut this account down, and create a new one, and then I'll do that then. Thanks for the link and advice!Rememberway (talk) 17:40, 13 May 2011 (UTC)