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House of Wuffing → Wuffingas – Relisted. There is a consensus that the article should be moved, but further input is required to determine the title it should be moved to. Jenks24 (talk) 19:41, 2 June 2011 (UTC) Let's pick something which is actually used, for instance by Barbara Yorke, Andrew Wareham, D. P. Kirby, etc. Cavila (talk) 20:49, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In what context do they use the word 'Wuffingas'? Shatter Resistance (talk) 08:20, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See Google Books: search 'Wuffingas' and you get phrases like "the eight faces on the sceptre are the ancestors of the Wuffingas", "the location of the Wuffingas' heartland" and "no kings of the 'East Angles' are known earlier than the Wuffingas". Wuffingas, Wuffing dynasty, Wuffing or Wuffings are all used by various historians whose work is cited in Wikipedia articles about the kings of this dynasty (Yorke, Kirby, Carver, etc.), whereas no texts I have reads have ever referred to the 'House of Wuffing'. I'd prefer Wuffingas. --Amitchell125 (talk) 19:50, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I find the present title regrettable, since it implies the wrong name for Wuffa; I should however prefer Wuffings. We are writing in Modern English; there is an Anglo-Saxon WP, which could use a version of this artlcle. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:42, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A little confused as how this inplies the "wrong name for Wuffa", what does that mean? Wuffings doesn't make any sense to use, how is it 'modern english'? Surely any word that you use in current context is modern english? Shatter Resistance (talk) 19:17, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

House of Wuffing implies that there was a person (House of Cedric - a title which begs several questions), or possibly a place (House of Hanover), called Wuffing. There wasn't; there was Wuffa and his descendants the Wuffings. Strongly oppose Wuffingas as I would oppose Atreidai, which is and ought to be a redirect; both are mere paedantry, not what the family is called in English. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"House of Wuffing" gets no hits at all and doesn't make much sense. House of Wuffa is the form consistent with the way royal houses are usually named on Wiki. Kauffner (talk) 02:57, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support proposal. Srnec (talk) 18:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So that name House of Windsor implies that the current ruling House of Britain have anything to do with Windsor or had some in their family called Windsor? Shatter Resistance (talk) 11:14, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, actually, it does; it was coined from Windsor Castle, which is a royal residence. Whether the implication of that piece of war propaganda is accurate is another question entirely. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:45, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The outstanding question seems to be whether to use "Wuffings" or "Wuffingas" - naive searching on both Google Books and Google Scholar indicates that "the Wuffingas" is three times as common as "the Wuffings" - is there any reason not to follow this?--Kotniski (talk) 11:54, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's precisely why I suggested Wuffingas, which is what they're called in English. It's that simple really. I can't say I'm surprised given how Wikipedia operates, but it would be pedantic to insist on some preconceived notion of consistency or Englishness at the expense of what reliable sources in the real world are actually doing these days. Cavila (talk) 19:52, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]