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Bon Iver (album)

The actual name of the Album is "Bon Iver, Bon Iver".

The 4ad ref from the website reads "self-titled release. They confirmed this to me today. But you could be right, they could be wrong (they just got a press release via email), but please hold on redirecting and reverting again. This will be referenced soon, I promise. THANK YOU. Snoop God (talk) 18:30, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


The source: http://www.jagjaguwar.com/onesheet.php?cat=JAG135 is pretty clear about the titel of the album: it's Bon Iver, Bon Iver. Also Vernon's tweet (mentioned above) leaves no doubt. I'll edit the page (again!) to correct the error. --BonBonIverIver (talk) 06:47, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The 4ad ref reads "self-titled". They confirmed this to me, but I think they are using the Jag press release. As i said before the press release was probably written too hastily, but we just need to get a 3rd party ref or the label to make it 100% clear. Just chill for a bit. Btw, i have a feeling the album will suck! Snoop God (talk) 10:57, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So you think the press release was probably written too hastily. Any proof/source for that remark? For the moment this site (The source: http://www.jagjaguwar.com/onesheet.php?cat=JAG135) still stands. You have yet to give me (and the rest of Wikipedia, for that matter) a proof/source for what you say. --BonBonIverIver (talk) 11:28, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for not shouting, Vitashaomi. Even expert editors like Snoop God are obliged to provide sources. I'll give Snoop God 24 hrs, that should give him enough time. If by that time he won't be able to show me (and everyone else) a reliable source, his edit will have to be removed. There really is no other way. I provided a source, Snoop God didn't. "Quod licet Iovi non licet bovi" does not apply. --BonBonIverIver (talk) 13:39, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The US iTunes store has the album on a pre-order with the eponymous 'Bon Iver' title, but they could be wrong?!...and 4AD (who are releasing the album worldwide, out with the US) also list the forthcoming album as "self-titled" [SEE REF] but they could be wrong also! Snoop God (talk) 21:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to add that 4AD also announces it as "Bon Iver, Bon Iver" (http://www.4ad.com/boniver/news/~announces-releas/ read the first paragraph... even if the title says "self titled") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.171.214 (talk) 22:52, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The artist himself has said that the album title is "Bon Iver, Bon Iver" ...how is this even still under discussion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.209.46.115 (talk) 00:02, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Let's sum things up. "Bon Iver": there is Snoop God who finally gives his sources: iTunes and a press release seen by no one. On the other side ("Bon Iver, Bon Iver") we have the sites of 4AD and Jagjaguwar (they're the ones releasing the CD, remember?). On top of things we have a tweet by Justin Vernon himself. Final score: "Bon Iver" - 2 and "Bon Iver, Bon Iver" - 3. Keep in mind that the artist himself is on the '3 side'. Conclusion: for the moment everything points to "Bon Iver, Bon Iver". I'll edit the page in accordance with the score mentioned above: 3-2. Over & out. --BonBonIverIver (talk) 05:44, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sh**. Somebody beat me to it. I'll leave the page as it is. --BonBonIverIver (talk) 05:45, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Incredible. I've been warned not to participate in Wikipedia and I should have followed the advice. This Snoop God ("nomen est omen") thinks he knows better than the artist Justin Vernon himself. And there's no one who dares to correct this "valued editor". A couple more of these guys and Wikipedia is doomed... Maybe for the better. So long. --BonBonIverIver (talk) 11:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC) The releases is now avaailable to pre from 4AD, all Amazon websites, iTunes (US) and various other retailers. They are all displaying the album as Bon Iver (self-titled).[reply]

  • This cite was added by Snoop God and is as clear as day. If you think the artist is on twitter, then go and spend time twittering with him and STOP making these stupid edits here. Thanks so much. Vitashaomi (talk) 22:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You both are being rather silly about this whole thing. If you had actually read the press release you'd see they refer to the album as Bon Iver, Bon Iver in the text despite calling it self-titled or Bon Iver in the title. Vernon himself confirmed this on his Twitter page, which is easily as valid as using iTunes as a source. The only source I might add. Pomtidom (talk) 17:05, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of the most stupid edit wars in Wikipedia history. The album is DEFINITELY called "Bon Iver, Bon Iver", as confirmed by Justin himself. 187.37.70.177 (talk) 04:05, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This cover of the album clearly indicates that the name of the album is indeed Bon Iver, Bon Iver whether Snoop God thinks this is a silly name is not relevant. Justin Vernon's twitter, both labels websites and Bon Iver's website also support this.

http://blogtower.posterous.com/whoops

Spaceyo (talk) 15:44, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Again, consider the stuff you read online is copied from the initial press release. These things are ofter done in super fast time and not considered. So, 4AD did not compose what is written on the 4ad site, Justin did not write text on Boniver.com, it is all copy, paste edit. I will add the iTunes ref also. Or do you think the two bigest online retailers would get it wrong? Thanks again. Snoop God (talk) 16:49, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I don't see why not. They have both been wrong before. Have you actually seen the picture of the album cover featuring the album title: "Bon Iver, Bon Iver". The same text in the same font is featured on both labels websites and Bon Iver's website. I am suspecting that you are trolling everyone. Spaceyo (talk) 17:22, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Someone keeps editing back to the wrong name. In this video Justin mentions the album name i.e. "Bon Iver, Bon Iver": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4cQ2abG5-c Spaceyo (talk) 21:09, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think the "angle" he talks about is for pr - a slant (i think i get it now) Was it really worth it? Vitashaomi (talk) 22:36, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • So you admit you're wrong then? Why hasn't the page been changed to the correct title? Eica (talk) 16:44, 31 May 2011 (UTC
      • It's also on the LP cover he posted that's linked here, some people are just slow.

http://blogtower.posterous.com/whoops Spaceyo (talk) 17:51, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The album is entitled 'Bon Iver' by the artist Bon Iver= a self titled album!

The interesting? angle is that they use Bon Iver, Bon Iver as an image, which confuses all the kids. Vitashaomi (talk) 18:39, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted because... --142.166.52.44 (talk) 01:00, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. I don't think the edit history needs merging. If it does, leave a note on my talk page. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:12, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Bon Iver (album) → Bon Iver, Bon Iver – Multiple sources name Bon Iver, Bon Iver as the correct title, including Bon Iver's website, Vernon's Twitter, and even the two references listed on this very page. Tamajared (talk) 01:08, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I concur. Self-titled is still true even for Bon Iver, Bon Iver and every single primary source lists the title of this album as Bon Iver, Bon Iver in their descriptions except for iTunes. iTunes leaked the album a month ahead of release, so how reliable are they? Pomtidom (talk) 16:59, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is referenced, and i could add at least 10 more. So, sorry, no - the page WILL NOT be merged. Please go to the guy on Twitter and post stuff on that site. THANK YOU. Snoop God (talk) 19:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What are you on, SnoopGod? The 4AD article clearly says Bon Iver, Bon Iver is the title of the album. Did you even read that article? It's in the first sentence under the album art. Are you also going to argue with Bon Iver's OWN WEBSITE and VERIFIED TWITTER? If iTunes and Amazon say otherwise, those are still only 2 sources. There are 3+ sources (Bon Iver website, Twitter, 4AD article) that have the album titled Bon Iver, Bon Iver. Why are you so dedicated to such a weak argument? 65.3.67.227 (talk) 19:50, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, 4AD copied the Jagjaguwar press release, so the initial info is copied over to Boniver.com and copied/edited to the 4AD site. Bon Iver does not write the words on his own website. Have no idea about his Twitter account, but it is probably the same deal. Hope that clears it up for you finaly. Thanks. Snoop God (talk) 21:09, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be so kind as to provide your reference? I see only two references on the main page, and they both say it's Bon Iver, Bon Iver. Thanks in advance. Pomtidom (talk) 22:32, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bon-Iver/dp/B004ZAXYOU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305712506&sr=1-1-spell Snoop God (talk) 22:42, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What are you TALKING about?! So what if Vernon doesn't write the words on his own website? You think he just has random strangers who don't know what they're talking about manage it? Anyone who designs the Bon Iver website isn't going to just make word ARTWORK (not a typo, actual art) of the wrong album title! ABSOLUTELY move to Bon Iver, Bon Iver. Tamajared (talk) 23:33, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Snoop God, I understand where you are coming from, but I ask that you please consider these sources:
1.http://twitter.com/#!/blobtower/status/60814182500671488 - Justin Vernon's personal twitter, written directly by him, where he confirms the title "Bon Iver, Bon Iver"
2.http://jagjaguwar.com/blog/2011/05/bon-iver-bon-iver-the-lyrics/ - A post on Bon Iver's record label containing the album's lyrics, posted only two days ago, where the title "Bon Iver, Bon Iver" is used twice
3.http://blogtower.posterous.com/whoops - A picture of the physical album itself, posted by Justin Vernon, where "Bon Iver, Bon Iver" can clearly be seen along the top
4.http://www.scdistribution.com/boniver/
5.http://boniver.org/
6.http://jagjaguwar.com/ - three different sites that use the same image, not text, of the album title, "Bon Iver, Bon Iver", which would have had to have been passed by the band before it was used, especially since it's on the physical packaging of the album. Also note that the title of the webpages in links 4 and 5 are "Bon Iver, Bon Iver".
It just makes much more sense to trust all these sources, which are very close to the band, than two retailers who have nothing to do with the band besides selling their album. This wouldn't even be the first time a retailer has gotten the name of something wrong. Jioviero (talk) 02:41, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Snoop God, you are wrong. Please admit it. Jioviero has a good list of sources, INCLUDING Justin's own confirmation through Twitter. 187.37.70.177 (talk) 04:07, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Snoop God allowed to lock the article? It is quite obvious that the album is entitled Bon Iver, Bon Iver; there are several sources that confirm this. Instead the Wikipedia page references to the album as Bon Iver because Snoop God thinks Bon Iver, Bon Iver is a silly name.Spaceyo (talk) 15:28, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edited the article in view of all the evidence provided by Jioviero. Pomtidom (talk) 02:17, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Album title

The references all point to a self titled album - they just did something weird with the title, I guess to be different, they use the (,) to seperate the artist and the album title. I just checked the initial reveiws and they all go with 'Bon Iver' by Bon Iver or Bon Iver - Bon Iver. Thanks. Snoop God (talk) 13:31, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The album is called "Bon Iver, Bon Iver", by Bon Iver. Please stop this, Snoop God. It's embarrassing. 187.37.70.177 (talk) 09:34, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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