User talk:JonFlaune

July 2011

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Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources, as you did to Anders Behring Breivik. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Saddhiyama (talk) 00:19, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop removing sourced content. El Mundo is a reliable source. JonFlaune (talk) 00:20, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry

I went too fast when looking at the amount of reverts and such. I didn't notice the source as I was using huggle. My apoligies. Curtis23 talk to me 00:32, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate that. Thanks. JonFlaune (talk) 00:33, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi.first, i dont see the need of writing he is anti muslim and pro israeli together. o.j simphson is pro israeli, do you see that writen on his page? no.

second, the article that the sentence was taken from is from 2009(?) and there is no link. the only proof to the sentence was writen in an iranian blog.

We include the complete quote, not just the first part of it. JonFlaune (talk) 01:05, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where the complete quote was taken from? give me the link to the article.

The reference is cited in the article. JonFlaune (talk) 01:07, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is what it says: "^ "Dynamittgubben" (in Norwegian). Aftenposten, A-magasinet (NO). 20 February 2009."

where is the link to the article??? thats not a real article. where did you get this quote from???? IsraeliUpdater ({{User talk:JonFlaune#top|talk]]) 01:09, 24 July 2011

The reference is cited in the article. JonFlaune (talk) 01:07, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just two short questions

Hi,

Did you have any previous, or still active, account in Wikipedia? What is your main purpose with this account?

Just asking--Gilisa (talk) 18:17, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have been a user at a different language edition for several years. I'm not obliged to explain to you my purpose with anything. Instead of stalking me because someone reverted your removal of anything that might reflect negatively on the pro-Israeli camp, why don't you respond on the talk page and back up your position with some sources? JonFlaune (talk) 19:37, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I only asked you questions. Keep the guidelines of English Wikipedia, which are WP:CIVIL and not blaming someone who asked you question for stalking you(???). You're biased editor and showed that on the TP and here again, just try-even if it's too much for you, to keep WP:NPOV. Also, I had good reason to question you and I truly feel no need to apologize about that, or about anything at all, in front of you.--Gilisa (talk) 20:25, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Er, I'm not a biased editor, at least not any more biased than you. JonFlaune (talk) 20:28, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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Breivik's ideology

I'd very much welcome your input here. --78.35.236.221 (talk) 19:08, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quite frankly, as long as it's mentioned somewhere in the article (which it currently is), I'm moderately satisfied. We agreed to remove it from the introduction of the other article (on the attack) as a compromise. But I agree that the introduction of the bio article is not very well written. JonFlaune (talk) 19:17, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Breivik & zionism

You're saying we should add Breivik's political beliefs, but he has hundreds! How is it possible to add them all?! Would you also support adding that he supports the following political movements: NDL, EDL, the International Freedom Alliance, the Army of Republika Srpska, Knights Templar, Crusade terror organizations, Democratic Party of Japan, Sixth Republic of South Korea etc. and many more. Are you willing to add them all to the lead? Imagine what the lead would look like if we added all that to the intro? It does not make sense to add zionism to the lead. Pass a Method talk 15:57, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm only saying we describe the political beliefs reliable sources highlight as his core ideology. JonFlaune (talk) 15:59, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I could find reliable sources for each of his above core ideologies:

EDL

International freedom allaince

Army of Republika Srpska

Knights Templar

Crusade ideology

Japan Democratic party

And many more. Does that mean they should all be added to the article? Off course not. it makes no sense whatsoever and is against WP:UNDUE Pass a Method talk 16:29, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edits

Your editing suggests you have used wikipedia for more than three days. but your account is only three days old. Do you have an explanation? Pass a Method talk 17:18, 27 July 2011 (UTC) I've been editing on a different project for years. How about concentrating on finding some sources supporting your position? JonFlaune (talk) 17:26, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So this is the first account you have used in wikipedia? Pass a Method talk 17:43, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, read my user page. I suggest you find something more productive to do than heckling me on my talk page, e.g. responding on the article talk page and coming up with some sources. JonFlaune (talk) 17:47, 27 July 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Thats a stupid request (no offense). Its the equivalnt of asking to find evidence that someone does not smoke. I already acknowledge he's pro-israel, but i'm saying that putting it in the lead is WP:UNDUE Pass a Method talk 17:52, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Then discuss that on the relevant article talk page and find sources supporting this position. Btw., I've not been editing the article for days, merely providing sources on its talk page. Maybe an idea you should consider? JonFlaune (talk) 17:53, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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Not that it matters, but

I've posted two replies in the section I started at Talk:Anders Behring Breivik. I know it won't change anything with people like the majority in that section, but it truly grinds my gears how proper encyclopedic procedure is chucked aside without any repercussions, nor any chance to even undisturbedly address and discuss the issues. --87.79.210.245 (talk) 00:32, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There have been a number of subsequent discussions including this one. I believe the general consensus is that the lead stays the way it is, especially as the opponents have failed to cite any sources. The lead has been fairly stable for many days. JonFlaune (talk) 00:47, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. --87.79.210.245 (talk) 00:51, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]