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Helgason Asgeir

  • Comment Helgason has over 40 peer reviwed articles published. Some listed as Helgason AR and some as Helgason A. He is first or last (correspondin) author of the majority of these papers. Additional workes include clinical papers and book chapters.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Harald fair hair (talk • contribs)
  • Comment I have not been put up as a candidate for inclusion in an on-line encyclopedia (not a list of academics mind you, but an encyclopedia). I would be as embarrassed as your boss apparently is, if one of my registrars made an entry on my behalf.
However from my web-name, you can tell that I am a urologist and as a 'radical prostate cynic' I have read a lot of literature on cancer of the prostate and the complications of its treatment. At present your article does not say Helgason's age, qualifications, area of interest (e.g public health, surgery or social work), rank or position at the Karolinska.
All we have established is that he has about 40 citations and 33 of these are listed at pubmed. Reviewing these he is the first or last author of 14 and about 10 are in international, first rate journals.This compares with Walsh, Pat (I bet this comes out red) who has over 500 citations mostly in J Urol.
Interestingly the most important articles in the treatment of prostate cancer in the last 5 years have come from Sweden e.g.(N Engl J Med. 2005 May 12;352(19):1977-84).These articles have multiple authors but Helgason is not one of them.
In short I believe I am in a position to know who the major workers in Prostate cancer are and Helgason is not one of them.
By the way, Helgason's papers are usually co-authored by 5 or 6 - is it your intention to write vanity pieces about all of them? --Porturology 04:41, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Does not appear to be more noteworthy than than the average university professor (see WP:BIO). Wikipedia is not PubMed. Additional evidence of notariety outside PubMed might change my mind, such as if he has been quoted (more than once) in newspaper stories as an expert about his field. Institutions are often anxious to promote their research for fundraising purposes or to raise their standing in terms of recruiting students and faculty, and issue press releases that may or may not be picked up by the local press. I searched the website of the Karolinska Institutet (English version) and did not find any press releases about his work. Note that if the article is kept it needs to be moved to Asgeir Helgason. Backwards talking wikipedia is not. Also may be a violation of WP:Vanity. Note that the article has 3 editors whose only edits have been to this article, its 3 redirect pages, or adding links to articles in his field of research. Thatcher131 12:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Helgason has been widely quoted in the national Swedish press (newspapers DN, Afronbladet, SvD, and TV4, Tv3, SVT) and in Icelandic press (Mbl, National TV and Stod2), as well as in several other media (e.g. The European). These media have accessed Helgasons papers without the help of the Karolinska Institutet.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.10.63.101 (talk • contribs) --this is an IP address at Karolinska University Hospital.
  • Keep the guy is notable and probably somewhat visible in Scandinavia. He's a prominent researcher who has done apparently-prominent research. As for the passionate Helgason supporter watching over this AfD: why not add a few external links for verification, notability-establishment, and general usefulness? Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 13:14, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Helgasons work has had substantial impact in the field of treatment for localized prostate cancer in Scandinavia. His contribution has been to highlight the importance of quality of life aspects after treatment (e.g. impotence, urinary leakage) and bring to light that a substantial number of prostate cancer patients are emotionally isolated in spite of present psychosocial support, indicating that psychosocial services need to be adjusted for the needs of men. Obs! "Kveldulfur" and "Harald fair hair" work in the same department as Helgason and are well acquainted with his work.—This unsigned comment was added by Kveldulfur (talk • contribs) and later modified by 193.10.63.101 (talk · contribs)
  • Comment from Asgeir R. Helgason: It has come to my attention that PhD students at the department have been trying to get me published on this internet cite. Although their information is basically correct I find it of questionable ethics to publish people’s names and work on the internet without consent. I have lectured them on that and asked them to stop. If people want to communicate about my works and possible influence on clinical practice I would prefer that they communicate with me directly. My e-mail is: asgeir.helgason@sl.se — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.44.242.18 (talk • contribs) 192.44.242.18 14:47, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Is this a University based webb cite?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.44.242.18 (talk • contribs)
      • Wikipedia is "The free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." See Wikipedia for a history. It's a continuously updated, peer-reviewed compendium of knowledge that strives for encyclopedic style and content. It is a world-wide endeavor with over 1 million articles so far. Click on main page on the left-hand side and take a look around. Thatcher131 14:46, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, notability established. "Average university professor" test is neither policy nor guideline, and parallel test not applied to actors, writers, pro athletes, etc ad nauseum, and indicates a perverse bias against knowledge workers. Monicasdude 14:57, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wow. That's the most interesting AfD discussion I've read in a while. Still, I think that Prof. Helgason is not notable enough for a wikipedia article, so delete. Bucketsofg 15:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd like to say "keep", but so far I haven't seen anything that would distinguish this individual from millions of other scientists in the world. One significant national or international media citation would do it. But until then I have to say delete. GeorgeStepanek\talk 04:47, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. GeorgeStepanek asked for links to examples of newspapers citations to Helgason. Here are two examples of citations to Helgasons work in the two largest Swedish newspapers Dagens Nyheter (an article on Helgasons tobacco prevention work) and Svesnka Dagbladet (an article on Helgasons work on prostate cancer men and emotional isolation)

http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/idag/did_9739365.asp

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=597&a=343773 Knut 10:26, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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