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2012 in American television

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Violation of WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL filled with unsourced and speculated informations. An article of a total mess. Definately not compatible with Wikipedia's mission of verifiability. Also we, at Wikipedia, aren't fortunetellers and we do not predict the future. Farine (talk) 14:18, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 07:16, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 07:16, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Delete per nom. ClaretAsh (talk) 12:26, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't delete it. We can find sources for this info. 68.44.179.54 (talk) 13:27, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's not just a question of finding a source for it my friend. It's a question that such article should had never been created in the first place, because its creation does not follow the principles of Wikipedia.

Farine (talk) 14:09, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What nonsense. Just because it's future information doesn't mean it can't be created. Try listing 2012 Summer Olympics for deletion and see how far you get. This article, while horrifically undersourced, is something that will happen. It needs cleaning up, not deletion. Lugnuts (talk) 16:57, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Let's not compare oranges and apples here. The 2012 Summer Olympics will happen. The article 2012 in American television in itself will happen, but not necessarily the shows that are listed on it and which make up its entire content. All of the shows announcements on this page are subject to cancellation at any time until the dates actually happens. For example, an announcement can come up in the mean time saying that the return of the Ricki Lake Show that is currently scheduled for September 2012 has been postponed or cancelled. That's why we avoid these types of pages and edits as much as possible because they are not reliable. I would suggest that you take a look at the WP:CRYSTALBALL guideline. Thank you. Farine (talk) 18:11, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you should re-read WP:CRYSTAL too. The opening line from point 1 states "1.Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place". Notable. Check almost certain to take place. Double check. Lugnuts (talk) 06:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just so that we keep track of the votes here, that makes 2 votes in favor of to keep (68.44.179.54 and Lugnuts) and 2 votes in favor of to delete (Farine and ClaretAsh) Farine (talk) 17:58, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment—This article should be userfied by the primary editor(s). It's only a couple of months away. Regards, RJH (talk) 21:36, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Lugnuts raises a good point, but I think the article should be deleted unless we can find more sources that prove that these events are almost certain to take place (WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL). Chris (talk) 21:11, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment as the 2012 US TV will occur unless TV ends in America because of some apocalypse, why not just move this to the Article Incubator for the next two months? 70.49.126.190 (talk) 04:25, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]