Talk:2010–2013 Southern United States and Mexico drought
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Climate Change
Before claiming climate change is partly responsible for the drought, please cite a RS. Fasttimes68 (talk) 19:10, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
- Climate change resulting from global warming? See Effects of global warming, Physical impacts of climate change, ... Please don't anthropomorphize weather/climate, even though global warming has anthropogenic causes, with terms such as as "responsible" or "blame" ... it sounds like climate change denial, or at least promoting Climate change controversy. 97.87.29.188 (talk) 18:55, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter what caused the drought, or if any claims are true or not. The article must have a RS to back up any claimFasttimes68 (talk) 23:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- What prompted this posting Special:Contributions/Fasttimes68? 99.181.132.163 (talk) 04:05, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter what caused the drought, or if any claims are true or not. The article must have a RS to back up any claimFasttimes68 (talk) 23:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- Special:Contributions/Fasttimes68 are you "responding" to Special:Contributions/207.109.125.194 of South Dakota? 97.87.29.188 (talk) 19:25, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Why was this removed?
n:At least four dead and hundreds of homes destroyed after week of wildfires rage throughout Texas 99.35.13.81 (talk) 23:05, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- Because that article says nothing about the drought. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:03, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- But this article says something about wildfires and drought. (Heated and dried material produces more fuel for fires.) 99.35.13.81 (talk) 02:18, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- So it does. It's still WP:SYNTHESIS to combine them to assert that anything about the fires is about the drought. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 02:27, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- This article is not only about drought, per its content. 99.181.150.29 (talk) 02:55, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
- The article is supposed to be only about the drought. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 02:59, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
- There is no official definition on this article, so no 'supposed to assume. 99.19.47.31 (talk) 23:49, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
- This article was about the drought, not the wildfires, until you came in to
vandaliseedit it. Unless you can get a consensus that it should also be about the wildfires (including those in states not mentioned as having a drought), keep edits about those fires to those articles. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:05, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
- This article was about the drought, not the wildfires, until you came in to
- There is no official definition on this article, so no 'supposed to assume. 99.19.47.31 (talk) 23:49, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
- The article is supposed to be only about the drought. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 02:59, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
- This article is not only about drought, per its content. 99.181.150.29 (talk) 02:55, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
- So it does. It's still WP:SYNTHESIS to combine them to assert that anything about the fires is about the drought. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 02:27, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- But this article says something about wildfires and drought. (Heated and dried material produces more fuel for fires.) 99.35.13.81 (talk) 02:18, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Fires
I've tagged the statement about the fires as needing a citation. I misread it earlier; all of those fires are in states hit by the drought, but we would probably need a source for each fire as to the relationship. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:05, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:02, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
2011 Southern US drought → 2011 Southern US drought and wildfires — Appropriate per content. 99.181.132.43 (talk) 00:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- Appropriate only per your attempts to add the content. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:53, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Why was this Wikinews removed Texas wildfires push public resources to the limit?
Why was this removed n:Texas wildfires push public resources to the limit? 97.87.29.188 (talk) 17:47, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
- Because it doesn't mention the drought. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 19:51, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
resource
- Record Texas Drought Burns Cotton Farmers as White Gold Withers by Elizabeth Campbell September 15, 2011 12:00 AM ET on Bloomberg.com; excerpt ...
The stretch from October 2010 to August 2011 was the driest 11-month period in Texas since 1895, when the National Weather Service started tracking such things. Governor Rick Perry, a Republican Presidential candidate and son of a cotton farmer, recently asked supporters to pray for rain. The government estimates 33 percent of the U.S. cotton crop will be lost, topping the record of 27 percent in 1933.
97.87.29.188 (talk) 18:03, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
added resource
- Epic scorching drought testing Texas' ways; Massive droughts caused by wildfires in Texas have ravaged the environment, incited a tug of war for available water, and fundamentally changed the way of life for the state’s millions of residents. by Patrik Jonsson in The Christian Science Monitor September 26, 2011 (page 18 in print issue 44, volume 103)
99.119.128.249 (talk) 00:06, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
- That's new: the claim that the wildfires caused the drought. It's probably a mistake in the title, as it's not reflected in the text. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 00:26, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
potential Accuweather.com resource "Climate change and the Spread of Fires"
Climate Change and the Spread of Fires Oct 20, 2011; 12:28 PM ET 99.19.46.34 (talk) 06:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)