Talk:Roger Casement

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Wikipedia puts people in using their highest title received. As Casement was knighted, his knighthood is stated. The fact that he was stripped of it is immaterial to the opening line but should be stated later. FearÉIREANN 17:17 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Photo

I'm glad we finally have a picture of Roger, but would it be possible to get one without a big postmark across his face? I've got a bunch of pictures I could probably upload, but I'm unsure of the legality. When exactly does something constitute "fair use"? -R. fiend 18:01, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

R fiend have a look at Fair use, I am happy with stamps as there are lots of examples on wikipedia already but I have no idea if scanning a picture from a book or copying one from the web would be illegal, may keep an eye out for a cleaner stamp so the postmark is not hiding the image. Kglavin 19:34, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

R Fiend, believe it or not, I have another stamp scan of Roger, I have about 10 more sheets (10 stamps on each sheet) to go through before I get to 'clean

roger' so I will overwrite the image Kglavin 19:47, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

(accurate but unencyclopaedic) quote moved to talk

I've moved this edit to this page from the article. It is correct, but is not suitable in the form it was written for the article.

I write this not as an addendum to the above, but as a correction. The 1916 Uprising occurred towards the end of April, 1916. It lasted less than a week. By the end of May scores of Irish republicans had been condemned to death by the victorious British authorities. By mid-May, good sense came to prevail, and the British, rather than create further martyrs for the Irish cause, rescinded the death-penalties on those surviving Irish leaders, De Valera, as an example. Many many people were sentenced to death, and were hereby reprieved. The executions ended in mid-May. But we are left with Casement. Why did the British insist on killing Casement, when they had stopped, as a matter of policy, the execution of Irish leaders? The answer truly lies in his homosexuality. Casement was tried for treason, but his true treason was not against his King, but against his sex: for this it was necessary that he be hanged. And because of his sexuality, no voice was raised in protest, though protest was much expected, particularly from the USA. It was only that quaint eccentric, GBS, who had anything to say at all. GBS -- God Bless Shaw. My name is Jamie O'Neill. I am the author of a book, set in Dublin in 1916, called "At Swim, Two Boys". I don't know everything; but I know an awful lot.

It is a fair analysis. (And At Swim, Two Boys is a good book, BTW!) FearÉIREANNFile:Ireland flag large.png\^(talk) 22:52, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Casement's origin

The article doesn't mention where Casement was born or what his initial connection with Ireland was. Did he suddenly adopt the Irish cause as a result of his experiences in the Empire? --Morgandp 08:07, 3 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A very good point. Born in Ireland, I'm quite sure. I'll get the specifics. -R. fiend 14:49, 3 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Africa

This article doesn't mention the fact that Casement spent considerable time in both Nigeria and in the Portuguese colonies(modern Angola and Mozambique) working as a British consul. In fact he was still present in Loanda(now Luanda) when the Boer war broke out. Also this article does not include what languages he spoke.

Comma

Shouldn't there be some mention of the famous line that Casement was "hanged on a comma" (sometimes "by a comma"), on account of two Court of Appeal judges reading commas into the Treason Act 1351 (see the first paragraph of this PDF). -- ALoan (Talk) 13:35, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There should. That's very good. When I get my books out of storage in a week or two I'll go over my Casement biography and try to expand the article a bit. I'll take a look at that link you provided as well. -R. fiend 14:31, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ballycastle

Casement was subsequently brought up in Ballycastle in Ulster. Members of the Casement family still live in the same house.

Also no mention of Casements work in The Bannister shipping corporation.

Knighthood

The article claimed that Casement's knighthood was the KCMG, but this is incorrect. He was appointed CMG in 1905 and in 1911 was knighted as an ordinary knight bachelor. Both these honours were cancelled after his conviction for treason in 1916. I've amended the article accordingly.