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Welcome

Welcome to my talk page. I am just getting the hang of this place after reading through formatting explainations for over an hour :) so apologies if I make an error. Lord Roem (talk) 01:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Welcome to our mediation cabal case!

Greetings, Lord Roem:

Thank you for contacting me. Yes, I intend to participate fully in mediation. "Cabal" implies a group, so I have two questions in this regard:

(1) Will there be other mediators beside yourself? (2) I notice that you deal with legal questions, focused perhaps on areas of free speech. While I think a legal viewpoint is very constructive, there are also technical questions; specifically, areas of symbolic logic and mathematics. It might be useful to have other mediators with expertise in symbolic logic and mathematics.

When questioned about technical material that has been excised without even reasons being supplied, Itsmejudith instead has reverted to making corrections concerning grammar, spelling, etc. I am not challenging corrections of this type; in fact, any such appropriate corrections made by anyone are welcome.

I don't wish to bias the situation, but I don't recall if I included the following related material when I applied for mediation. (If I did, and you've seen this already, please disregard:)

Similar directly-related disputes, that have already been resolved, have arisen between me and Itsmejudith. I view her ill-considered censorship as biased and perhaps based on consequent antagonism. Thus, without trying to bias the issue, I would appreciate it if you would examine the conversation that has already occurred with regard to Wikilinks such as Shark Island Extermination Camp, Okahandja Concentration Camp, Swakopmund Concentration Camp and Windhoek Concentration Camp; specifically, the section on "Bridging the Second and Third Reichs" -- not only with regard to the table of concentration camps, but also the confusion of continuity there with "continuity" used in a technical sense by Lucy Dawidowicz.

I look forward to your participation in mediating my case.Virago250 (talk) 05:09, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Lord Roem,
Thank you for your response. I have put a watch on the mediation page. I am more than happy to restrict my comments to what material should be on the contested page (what is relevant vs. what is not relevant). I realize that this particular Wikipedia page is complicated and thus presents special problems: mainly, that there is no way, in my view, that the material can be simplified and still provide a meaningful and valid coverage of the material. Similar material is dealt with in a very simple way: it's not covered.
I would like to have complete justification for taking material out: for example if it is felt that predicate logic should not be included, I would like to know the specific reason WHY. As far as I am concerned it should only be removed if it adds unnecessary complexity. (This is only one such example.) I had hoped that making Wikilinks to relevant subjects that already exist in Wikipedia (such as Predicate logic) would remove questions of bias.
I am sure that you have been exposed to other disputes over issues of censorship while mediating on Wikipedia, and realize the absolute need to provide solid citations.
Sincerely,Virago250 (talk) 15:12, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I will participate if Virago will. It does seem somewhat premature. I was in a mediation recently and it was sorted out by a post on RSN, which could have been made before the mediation. If you would like to recommend anything before mediation, whether 3O, RfC or whatever, please do. But if you do think it will be appropriate to start mediation now, please take this as my formal agreement. I will abide by the outcome of the mediation. Itsmejudith (talk) 09:42, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shutter (Software)

Hi, thanks for your recent New page patrolling. Just to let you know, I've removed your speedy deletion tag from the article Shutter (Software) because software is not one of the subjects where the A7 speedy deletion criteria applies. Thanks. --Mrmatiko (talk) 11:30, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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