Talk:The Citadel

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/Archive 1: June 2004 – May 2005.

inaccuracy

"All cadets have physical training Monday and Thursday mornings before breakfast, drill practice Tuesdays and Thursdays between 11am and noon, and "Spirit Runs" Friday afternoons after parades."

PT is only at the beginning of the semester until the Corps PT test, and only knobs are required to participate in the spirit run...

other inaccuracy

1. Check the average SAT scores for the Citadel! It's nowhere near 1200. It's actually more like just over 1000. Stick to the facts and stop stretching the truth. Saying 1200 is just plain lying...

2. The only cross registration the citadel has is with Trident Technical COMMUNITY COLLEGE whose students can complete two years at the community college and then spend two years at the citadel and graduate with a citadel degree. The medical university of south carolina, college of charleston do not have "cross-registration" with the citadel...again, someone threw out an innacuracy and fabrication...you guys are hilarious. Bullhog 00:33, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Response to 2

Sir, this is not an error.

Lowcountry Graduate Center

In an effort to meet the needs of graduate education in the Lowcountry, The Citadel, the College of Charleston, and the Medical Univeristy of South Carolina formed in 2001 the Lowcountry Graduate Center (LGC). The Center is located in North Charleston near the Charleston International Airport. Visit the Lowcountry Graduate Center and view Citadel courses offered at the LGC. Hope that helps http://citadel.edu/cgps/

Yes, and once again you folks have stretched the truth. Being a part of the LGC is vastly different from simple cross-registration with those colleges. How cheeezy it would be if West Point, Annapolis, or VMI graduates wore a ring and could say, "Yes, I'm a graduate, but I was never a cadet..." And there are citadel folks out there claiming their school is tough. You guys need a good dose of reality.Bullhog 17:21, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and once again there are folks out there like you who know absolutely nothing about which you are arguing so vehemently about. Graduate students are those guys who come during the night and have absolutely no interaction with the corps..and guess what buddy, they can get a ring which is entirely different than that ring with which the corps wears. I can guarantee you that the only ring the corps recognizes, as well as the employers who are in high demand for citadel grads, is the one that has been the same for over 70 yrs.. The real band of gold. I dont think its cheezy at all that the citadel offers great learning opportunities in graduate studies for the lowcountry of S.C! How can you say something so stupid?? I dont know who you are and where you come from, but if you dont think our school is tougher than any other military school or academy out there with exception to VMI, just come on down and see for yourself. Westpoint and Annapolis are great schools academically and militarily, but as for being "tough", well, to be frank, they dont know the meaining of that word!

Get a life and unless you have substantial info go away. It is double sad because one of the people who graduated as a non cadet was Marine First Lieutenant Therrel Shane Childers reported as the first American causality in the war in Iraq. If as you say "Yes, I'm a graduate, but I was never a cadet..." is cheesy…. I will take it. But take a look in your own back yard before you step in ours.…… [Drive23]

Now step back and read the below for real info about what you are talking about

http://citadel.edu/pao/newsreleases/war/therel_childers.html

To Drive 23 who said "get a life and unless you have more substantial info go away:" Here's more substantial info: Read some of the entries in the archived talk pages here and you'll agree that you guys need a reality check. You had a citadel supporter claim in your archived talk pages, among other things, that your school had "the most grads killed in the war on terror..." That was a dumb thing and a sad thing to say in the first place, but more importantly, it was completely FALSE. Here's some more "substantial info:" You guys have graduated only one active duty four star general in your history, no rhodes scholars, and ZERO Congressional Medal of Honor recipients. Tell me again how tough you guys are.....Bulloh 15:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I do not challenge the facts on the CMH, Rhodes. Have a lot of respect for and friends from your school. I have taken a look at the one issue and our facts jive as well (from what I read), but agree it is an inappropriate discussion given where our classmates are right now from both our institutions. However, you are wrong in a few areas hence my last post. The Citadel does have cross registration as noted for example see below. As for the other points, you do not seem to understand the MECEP and Navy day students and hence the last posting. I have also taken a look at the info you reference and see no mistakes or misinformation seems like a lot of people for some reason do not understand the CGPS and night class available on campus for grad students. I would say the people mudding the waters are more on the outside end and hence my last heated posting which in hind sight was not right. But read the MECEP info provided above and understand that these are a great asset to both cadet training and the Citadel community not something that is cheese. V/R[Drive 23]

http://www.musc.edu/es/cross_reg.html Shows all: http://www.citadel.edu/registrar/forms/application-to-take-courses-at-another-college-guidelines.pdf#search='cross%20registration%20with%20the%20citadel'

---I am a cadet myself right now at the Citadel, and all this talk about how cadets are so tough disgusts me. They march around with huge egos beacuse they think that since they got hazed as a knob, they can take on the world. They are trying to imitate the soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen who actually do serve in the line of fire. Now, some cadets really are big-muscled fighters, but that's it. for the most part, they are loud, obnoxious boys who came to the Citadel for a ring, not a degree. They worry less about academics than they do about watching movies during study period. There is the minority of cadets who do have a good heart and act in a professional manner....those are usually the ones who are on a military scholarship and will commission into the US Armed Forces after graduation. Those are usually the cadets that were unable to be accepted into a military academy.

Content Review

All information has been verified and reviewed by The Citadel Office of Public affairs as of 3/5/05, edits on this day submitted via VP Public Relations. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.217.57.101 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Question to Rillian

Saw your edits, look good however the introduction still seems to hit civilian side versus cadet’s right up front. While the CGPS is a key part of The Citadel and the low country I think it should be reworded as my changes indicated. Interested in your thoughts? {Drive 23} —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.217.57.101 (talk • contribs) 21:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

The opening paragraph should be short and to the point, more detail is then provided in the body of the article. I agree that military Corps should be emphasized and have made some edits to do that. Rillian 12:13, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Add Sword Drill To Fictional Depictions?

I wanted to get grad in put on adding Sword Drill, http://www.sworddrill.com/ , to the fictional depiction section. I know this might be something some of the members might comment on so treading lightly and testing the waters. V/R {Drive 23} —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.217.57.101 (talk • contribs) 22:21, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Certainly appears to be a fictional depiction of life at the Citadel or a school like the Citadel. Be bold and add it. Rillian 12:22, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Number 2 public university in the South?

This claim is nonsense. It may have been ranked the number two regional university in the south (It's hard for me to tell, because the linked article seems to be a list of all regional/"master's" universities in the south, and I'm not sure how many of the six schools ahead of The Citadel are public), but the "master's" universities rank below the national universities, meaning that, in order, Virginia, North Carolina, William and Mary, Georgia Tech, Florida, Texas, Georgia, Texas A&M, Clemson, NC State, Virginia Tech, Auburn, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida State, and South Carolina are all superior to the Citadel in the US News rankings. john k 01:50, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

YOUR AN IDIOT...DO YOU READ THE THINGS YOU RIGHT DOWN?? what do you mean it may have been ranked the # 2 regional university in the south...the south IS THE REGION. The things that you are typing are NONSENSE!

here is the link you are looking for http://www.citadel.edu/pao/newsreleases/sy05-06/US_News_2006.html. This is the article I think the info was pulled from. Enjoyed going to UPENN for a game this year. Great atmosphere V/R{Drive 23}65.217.57.101 15:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

65.217.57.101 is correct. Based on the rankings, the Citadel was seventh out of 64 universities in the American South that offer up to a Master's degree. Counting only public universities in that group of 64 places the Citadel at second out of 24. I'ved edited the article to clarify we are referring only to schools that offer only up a Master's degree. The other schools you list offer Bachelors, Master's and Doctoral degrees. Rillian 15:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. john k 17:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the "YOUR AN IDIOT" response you wrote the conjunction you are (you're) as "your"...not such a good case for #2 in the South. ArchonMeld 01:23, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Uncited content

There is a fair amount of article content that is not cited. I am removing uncited content to The Citadel (military college)/Uncited. By Wikipedia:Verifiability, "Information on Wikipedia must be reliable. Facts, viewpoints, theories, and arguments may only be included in articles if they have already been published by reliable and reputable sources. Articles should cite these sources whenever possible. Any unsourced material may be challenged and removed." Please contribute by providing citations for the information on the Uncited archive, and migrating that information from the Archive to the article page once a citation in provided. Thank you. Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 21:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We Should Add The Following=

Kabul Compound Renamed in Honor of Fallen Citadel Grad U.S. Army Capt. Daniel W. Eggers Class of 1997

http://www.citadel.edu/pao/newsreleases/war/eggers_memorial.html

Camp Udari, located in northern Kuwait, has been renamed Camp Buehring in honor of Lt. Col. Chad Buehring, Class of 1985. Buehring was killed in an Oct. 26, attack on the Al-Rasheed Hotel in Baghdad. Buehring was assigned to Army Central Command Headquarters, Fort McPherson, Ga.

Dan was a great person and a good friend....Looking for some votes to add this info.. V/R {Drive 23}65.217.57.101 22:05, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://citadel.edu/pao/newsreleases/war/buehring_memorial.htm

Graduation Rate

I added a little more emphasis on the graduation rate and gave appropriate citations. I'm sure readers would like to know specifically what ranking the Citadel holds in this area, and because I know how defensive others might get when it comes to one college saying it is #1 in something, I wrote verbatim what the source has, and cited that source. If there are any problems with this, please feel free to verify.

Seal

Is there a better seal of the university beside a boy scout patch? ArchonMeld 01:31, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good call. I will take a look. V/R Drive2365.217.57.101 12:10, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]