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Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 17:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It says that the matchlock was used in Japan until the 1900's, Im not a gun expert, but it sounds kind of odd that they were used 500 years after they were invented?

   "The first dated illustration of a matchlock mechanism dates to 1475, and by the 1500s they were universally used. The technology was transported to India by Babur in 1526 and to Japan by the Portuguese in 1543 and flourished there until the 1900s.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Galinkin (talk • contribs) 21:49, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind my last post, I researched it and the document was correct —Preceding unsigned comment added by Galinkin (talk • contribs) 21:58, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Japanese pistol" image

I don't think this pistol is intended to be used by a mounted samurai despite this being claimed at the museum. Compare with this image [1], which is an actual pistol used by samurai. Note the much simpler construction. I think the pistol in this image is actually a working, but non-combat-use gift piece. Also note the Mon (crest) on the barrel. It's a Nanatsu-boshi (seven stars) Mon and this Mon had been used by many clan including a branch of Matsudaira clan. So, it's quite likely to be an Edo era gift. --Revth (talk) 01:20, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

recent content removal

It seems someone keeps removing the same content over and over again without explanation. Either give a proper reason or stop. Cold Season (talk) 06:20, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Improved versions of the musket were transported to India by Babur in 1526"

The sources referenced for this claim ( [7], [8] ) seem a bit dubious. I can't attribute an author to either one of them, and these pages don't seem to cite any sources for their claims. Darthshak (talk) 05:48, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Have found a reliable reference ^[1] which states that Mughal musket technology was indeed superior to their European counterparts. There is also speculation regarding its origin :

The common Mughal soldier stuck, however, to his matchlock, which, in technical terms, was a descendant of the fifteenth-century matchlock that had reached India through Ottoman channels.

However, the statement is based on accounts of Mughal India provided by Francois Bernier and Jean-Baptiste Tavernier, who visited India during Shah Jahan and Aurangzeb's reigns respectively, much after Babur's rule. There is also evidence^[2] that many improvements to muskets had occurred "by Akbar's time". Again, it is not possible to attribute these to Babur himself. Darthshak (talk) 18:37, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

^ Gommans, J.J.L (2002). Mughal Warfare: Indian Frontiers and Highroads to Empire 1500-1700 (Warfare and History). Routledge. p. 256. ISBN 0415239893.
^ Schimmel, Annemarie (2006). The Empire of the Great Mughals: History, Art and Culture. Reaktion Books. p. 352. ISBN 978-1861892515.

[1] Gommans, J.J.L (2002). Mughal Warfare: Indian Frontiers and Highroads to Empire 1500-1700 (Warfare and History). Routledge. p. 256. ISBN 0415239893.

[2] Schimmel, Annemarie (2006). The Empire of the Great Mughals: History, Art and Culture. Reaktion Books. p. 352. ISBN 978-1861892515.

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