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Cap gun[edit]

I've just noticed this at .22 Long Rifle & .22 Extra Long: somebody's systematically deleting all the capitals in caliber names, including .38 Special & .357 Magnum. Plus, somebody moved .22 Extra Long to .22 extra long... (I've moved it back...) I've never seen this in the sources; they all use caps. The rationale given is WP:MOSCAPS, which, I suggest, is contrary to what the sources all say in these cases. IMO, attention to this is needed. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 16:31, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Just had to do the same for .22 Short (which I missed before...) TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 16:41, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Low caliber?[edit]

I encountered this at Mauser MG 213: a metric case designation. I expect it's commonplace, so I wondered: is there a way to use the convert template to produce a metric designation without the "extra" unit? That is, not this: 9 mm × 25 mm (0.35 in × 0.98 in)? TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 16:42, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

It appears it's more complicated than I thought.... So, will editors weigh in here? Thx. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 23:00, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
It is far more complicated than you think, and a formulaic Metric <-> Imperial conversion will almost never yield a "correct" result that would mean anything to anyone looking for firearms information. For example, the 9mmx25 is simply never referred to in Imperial units, only Metric. And which "9mmx25"? The 9mmx25 Super Auto G? 9mmx25 Dillon? 9mmx25 Mauser? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:24, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Agreed. Wacky complexity. Bullets of .38 special and .357 magnum cartridges have the same diameter—What a country! Of course, in America, you choose bullet, but in Soviet Russia, bullet chooses you! — ¾-10 01:49, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Firearms by caliber subcategory for bore[edit]

Looking for additional input (or consensus) on a discussion for creating a subcategory in Category:Firearms by caliber which would be for the articles 2 bore, 4 bore, 6 bore, 8 bore and Six bore, which I started because the cat was tagged at some point as a container cat (subcats only), apparently to subcategorize by caliber. Slivicon (talk) 02:30, 20 August 2015 (UTC)


The usage of Grain is under discussion, see talk:food grain -- (talk) 05:52, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Status of ITAR changes[edit]

In June the United States government published this: proposed change to International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). ITAR were originally intended to control international distribution of military hardware. The proposed regulatory change may be intended to control distribution of information about improvised firearms. Crude firearms have long been assembled from parts not meeting US legal definitions of firearms. Materials science advances and expanded tool availability has improved opportunities for low-cost manufacturing techniques to construct more sophisticated firearms similar to those suitable for military use, and for which civilian manufacture, transfer, possession, and/or use may be legally restricted. Although the proposed regulations may have been intended to expand ITAR's regulatory reach to restrict distribution of instructions on how to manufacture improvised military firearms from materials not subject to weapons transfer limitations under previous regulatory definitions, concern has been expressed that the proposed expanded regulatory reach might be interpreted to apply to internet publication of information about a wider variety of subject matter related to other weaponry.

The comment period for the proposed regulatory change expired on 3 August 2015; and corresponding regulatory changes may now be implemented. Can someone recommend reliable sources for information about the ultimate fate of these proposed regulations? Thewellman (talk) 18:19, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Criminal Use Images[edit]

Please see the discussion at Talk:Ruger Mini-14#Memorial plaque concerning whether or not to include an image of a memorial plaque for victims of criminal use in a firearm article. Thank you,
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 13:21, 27 September 2015 (UTC)