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Schwarzlose M07/12 listed at Requested moves[edit]

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A requested move discussion has been initiated for Schwarzlose M07/12 to be moved to Schwarzlose M.7. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:47, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Manual of style addition - specify caliber?[edit]

Can we add something in the project guidelines about making sure that the caliber is generally fully designated (e.g. "9×19mm" or "9mm Luger" rather than just "9mm")? There are lots of articles with the caliber designated as something like "7.62 mm". We shouldn't make it incumbent upon the reader to follow a series of links to understand that an AKM, FAL, PPSh-41, and Dragunov all take different 7.62 mm ammunition. Likewise, mixing metric and imperial units gets ugly (e.g. "The armed forces of X use calibers 9×19mm, 5.56×45mm, 7.62×51mm, and .50 BMG"). IMO it's easier for the reader to understand if we keep things consistently metric or imperial when in a table. Thoughts? Faceless Enemy (talk) 00:44, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

I agree with the first part, spell them out and be consistent; if you want to take the lead on drafting something up, you have my support. The second part I do not agree with and hate when people use "11.whatever" when describing 45 ACP and IIRC, 50 BMG and 45 ACP are the only non-metric cartridges used by any military (unless there are still zoomies packing 38s). John Moses Browning cries in heaven every time someone types that, but every time I shoot 10mm on the same day as 41 Magnum, a kitten gets happy.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 03:49, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
What about "12.7×99mm (.50 BMG)"? ".50 BMG" doesn't mean anything to non-Americans or newbies, and "12.7×99mm" doesn't mean anything to me. The nice thing about the metric designations is that you get an overall feel for the cartridge sizes relatively quickly. Can we get something that works for new/European readers without ditching experienced American readers? I'm especially talking about lists of military equipment, where 90% of the rest of the list will be in metric terms...which I guess falls under Wikiproject Military History just as much as it falls under this project. Faceless Enemy (talk) 12:07, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Most of the time the average reader just needs to know at first instance the weapon bore in a measurement - they are comfortable with. Eg in WPMILHIST articles if I see ".50 cal" I generally add a "(12.7 mm)" after it. GraemeLeggett (talk) 12:13, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Neutral eyes needed at Bushmaster M17S [edit]

There is some edit dispute going on at Bushmaster M17S, so it would be greatly appreciated if an uninvolved party could swing by to help resolve the discord, and/or help to bring the article up to snuff. Thanks! MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:27, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Your edits are, of course, correct. I suspect he's going to be a handful for a little while. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:14, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Excellent work by both of you. Thanks!--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 16:34, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

AfC submission[edit]

Could you take a look at Draft:Gas-Checks in British RML Heavy Guns? Appreciated, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 01:59, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

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Cap gun[edit]

I've just noticed this at .22 Long Rifle & .22 Extra Long: somebody's systematically deleting all the capitals in caliber names, including .38 Special & .357 Magnum. Plus, somebody moved .22 Extra Long to .22 extra long... (I've moved it back...) I've never seen this in the sources; they all use caps. The rationale given is WP:MOSCAPS, which, I suggest, is contrary to what the sources all say in these cases. IMO, attention to this is needed. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 16:31, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Just had to do the same for .22 Short (which I missed before...) TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 16:41, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Category:Deferred-Class Firearms articles[edit]

Does anyone in the Firearms project review the 156 entries in the Category:Deferred-Class Firearms articles and see which ones are really deferred and which ones belong in other classes?--DThomsen8 (talk) 12:48, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Low caliber?[edit]

I encountered this at Mauser MG 213: a metric case designation. I expect it's commonplace, so I wondered: is there a way to use the convert template to produce a metric designation without the "extra" unit? That is, not this: 9 mm × 25 mm (0.35 in × 0.98 in)? TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 16:42, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

It appears it's more complicated than I thought.... So, will editors weigh in here? Thx. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 23:00, 21 July 2015 (UTC)