Talk:List of people with the most children

I have never seen a worse researched wiki article and that is saying something. Old editions of the UK version Guinness Book of Records had two UK families living in the 1980s with 22 children. 19 children today may be worth mentioning but not so long ago it was not so special. The whole impression given is a complete distortion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian Boru IV (talk • contribs) 20:25, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nanu ram jogi just had his 22 child at age 94

This article needs expansion

Specifically, mothers and couples are very incomplete. They should continue to be tagged as such until they have been expanded considerably, I would say that the lists should have at least ten each before they are considered somewhat closer to complete - NickGrayLOL (talk) 07:10, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The whole article seems incomplete, including the fathers section. Men with 20 children can't possibly be extraordinary in a historic setting. Off the top of my head, I can think of Mohammed bin Laden with over 50 children, and Ghengis Khan, yet they're not included here. This article needs more definite sources if there are any. 109.189.97.216 (talk) 16:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but it's hard to find sources. There's even one in my family tree: five wives, 29 children, in Western Finland...but no sources beyond the old communion books. 80.222.145.74 (talk) 18:04, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maria Theresa of Austria had 16 children with her husband Francis I. 24.130.16.160 (talk) 23:45, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

i think this list should make some clear distinction between 'proven' and 'unproven' claims. that way all the obvious candidates like ghengis khan can be added, but with a label 'claim disputed' or something.

fathering 20 children isn't out of the ordinary, especially not if there are several mothers involved. so i think these cases should be removed from the list Selena1981 (talk) 19:51, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The term illegitimate is inappropriate for an encyclopedia

The description of Desmond Hatchett's children as "illegitimate" is inappropriate as well as inconsistent. "Out-of-wedlock" is the term used for Zuma's children and should be used (if needed) for Hatchett as well.

It's also not so clear that the Mail is a good source of information, nor that Hatchett has set any records, even for Tennessee. The information is probably out of date as well, coming from 2009 (so he may be now closer to setting some records). My feeling is that there are probably many, many men in the US who have fathered 20 or more children, although perhaps few have had the chance to be written up in the Mail.

Finally, there do not seem to be any sperm donors on the list---they may not be legally fathers, but they are certainly biological fathers. Kirk Maxey would be one (fathered perhaps 400 children).

Son of eugene (talk) 06:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mothers vs. Couples

How can the "couples" section have larger totals that the "mothers" section? Each couple does include a mother, right?Originalname37 (Talk?) 15:14, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

the mother section seems to have disappeared completely.Selena1981 (talk) 19:42, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]