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This article was accepted on 30 August 2012 by reviewer Snowysusan (talk · contribs).

Neutrality

This article must be cleaned up to make it less biased.

Examples below

Saying Marvin Rees is a "Prominent Bristolian" is a matter of opinion.

Phrases like "overwhelmingly popular choice" should not be used. Better to give figures than adjectives.

"Rees has worked in diverse areas throughout his career" is not factual.

Unbiased approach to Bristol Legacy Commission also required. e.g. "which will help a dozen people annually from impoverished backgrounds to reach their aspirations" is wrong tense as Programme was scrapped by council in spring 2012.

Wikipedia is not the place for political stooges - it should be factual an non-partisan.

Taken up with Snowysusan 28/Sep/12 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isitwhatitis (talk • contribs) 10:30, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response

I have reviewed the article again. Although I don't agree with all the issues raised and wonder about the bias/lack of neutrality of the user raising them, I have done the following to resolve the issues:

  • I have removed the word "prominent"
  • I have removed the words "overwhelmingly popular choice"
  • There is nothing wrong with diverse - it simply means varied, different... and it is accurate.
  • You need to read the article more closely - it is the "Bristol Leadership Program" not the "Bristol Legacy Program" that will help a dozen people annually... If you check the history tab and compare my version and your revision, you will see that it was your own edit that created this confusion. My version read as follows:
A prominent Bristolian, Rees is the Founder and Programme Lead at The Bristol Leadership Programme, a two week program which will help a dozen people annually from impoverished backgrounds to reach their aspirations [1] [2]. He is a member of the Bristol Legacy [3][4] and a former Director of the Bristol Partnership whose goals are to make Bristol's prosperity sustainable, reduce health and wealth inequality, build stronger and safer communities, and raise the aspirations and achievements of young people and families.[5]
  • You are right, the Bristol Legacy Commission was wrapped up in April 2012. The Bristol Leadership Program was founded in May 2012. Your edits to try to fix what you had misread resulted in misleading the reader so I reverted them and, taking your point, made it clear that the Bristol Legacy Commission was no longer in operation.
  • And, if it is me you are calling a political stooge, please recall that there are policies here about courtesy. I try very hard to make a positive contribution to Wikipedia. I am a Canadian and have no personal stake or interest in political life in Bristol.

I believe the issue of neutrality has now been addressed. Snowysusan (talk) 16:55, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

Thanks Snowysusan

I appreciate your time and help with tidying up this article.

I've been reading about the Bristol Leadership Programme and Bristol Legacy Commission today because my knowledge of these were limited beforehand. Thank you for your pointers, however I still think the article is confusing. As far as I can tell from non-political sources local to Bristol, the Leadership Programme was funded through the Legacy Commission and the wording currently doesn't make this association clear.

As far as I can tell, the Leadership Programme has also ended: http://www.bristol.gov.uk/node/2975 . Therefore should "He is the founder" not be "he was the founder"?

Thanks again, itiswhatitis 23:59, 28 September 2012 (GMT)

  1. ^ Bristol Culture, "Who is Marvin Rees" http://bristolculture.wordpress.com/tag/marvin-rees/ 19th June 2012
  2. ^ Youth Mayor could Engage Young People http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Youth-mayor-engage-young-people/story-16216857-detail/story.html
  3. ^ Bristol Legacy Commission Members Commission http://www.bristol.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/leisure_and_culture/local_and_family_history/bristol-legacy-commission-members_0.pdf
  4. ^ Bristol Legacy Commission http://www.bristol.gov.uk/node/2975
  5. ^ Bristol Partnership (About us) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Marvin_Rees&action=edit
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