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"MIT Crime Club"” article redirects to this article. Dervorguilla (talk) 18:50, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Personal interest in MIT Crime Club; rules

As mentioned in my User Page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dervorguilla

Special Interests • MIT Crime Club (past member & project-team advisor)

Full Disclosure of Interests

I declare that neither I nor any member of my immediate family has a significant financial interest in any … entity discussed in my edits or in any competing … entity.

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WP:BFAQ#RULES

The Club’s activities have been reported on at length by the Boston Globe, Boston Herald, Boston Magazine, and PI Magazine.

I have no current affiliation with the Club.  I do seem to have a relatively encyclopedic knowledge of the “factual information [in] third-party articles” about the group.

If the articles are authoritative and the information is factual, should it get published?

Dervorguilla (talk) 01:12, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I think you'd be fine editing it directly, but you might inquire at WP:COIN and/or Wikipedia:WikiProject Cooperation about it. Allens (talk) 12:05, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit requested

{{Request edit}} - done. Allens (talk) 12:13, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Add text to sec. 3, Activities.

In 2005 the Club began rebroadcasting Harvard, MIT, and Cambridge police transmissions online.[1][2]

-Dervorguilla (talk) 03:49, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Add new sec. 5, Finances.

Finances
The club’s project funding is derived from alumni donations[3] and from disbursements by MIT’s Association of Student Activities[4].  The school maintains an “MIT Crime Club Fund” to support the group’s initiatives.[5]

--Dervorguilla (talk) 20:46, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Changes made 5 November 2012

Concerning changes by Geoffrey to last version by Dervorguilla

  At § 0: OR, BLPGROUP, POV; no authority cited.  (Authorities cited in §§ 1 & 2 don’t support assertions.)

  At § 1: OR; REDFLAG, QS, BLPGROUP, POV; cited authority doesn’t support assertion.

  At § 2: OR; cited authority doesn’t support assertion.

--Dervorguilla (talk) 09:21, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OR  “If you use [even well-sourced material] … to advance a position not … explicitly supported by the source, you are engaging in original research.”

  • No published source explicitly supports the editor’s position that the group isn’t operating on MIT’s campus or that it was derecognized sometime before 2012.

WP:REDFLAG  “Red flags … include … challenged claims that are supported purely by … [sources] with an apparent conflict of interest….”
WP:QS  “Questionable sources are those that … have an apparent conflict of interest.  Examples … include … [1] articles by any media group that … discredit its [holding company’s] competitors; [2] news reports by journalists having financial interests … in the [reported-on company’s] competitors….  They are not suitable sources for contentious claims about others.”

  • The group’s members compete against the source’s members to obtain financial aid from MIT Student Life.

WP:BLPGROUP  “A harmful statement about a small group … comes closer to being a BLP problem than a similar statement about a larger [one]; and when the group is very small, it may be impossible to draw a distinction between the group and the individuals that make [it] up….  Make sure you are using high-quality sources.”

  • According to ref 5, the group is made up of only ten individuals.  (And three of them are identified by name in the article or in a cited source.)

--Dervorguilla (talk) 11:30, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ "Harvard radio stations". SHOUTcast radio directory. Nullsoft. Retrieved January 9, 2012.
  2. ^ "MIT Crime Club police-radio scanner". Retrieved January 9, 2012. {{cite web}}: Text "MIT Crime Club" ignored (help)
  3. ^ Cite error: The named reference schwartz was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  4. ^ Maurer, Sam (November 1, 2005). "MIT Marching Band blog entry". MIT Admissions Office. MIT. para. 17.
  5. ^ "MIT Crime Club Fund". Giving to MIT. MIT. Retrieved January 10, 2012.