User talk:Pepperchovy

Peter Schiff is married and has spoken about his marriage multiple times on his radio show. Cited is a picture of him on his wedding day with his wife.

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Peter Schiff

Hi Pepper, Welcome! On Wikipedia we need to cite a reliable source saying he is married iea news or magazine article or book. Having heard it on his radio show is not enough. And when you/we find a reliable source per WP:RS, the info should go at the bottom of the article in a Personal Life section, not in the Info Box at the top. Also its not appropriate to give the names of his wife and children unless they are famous per WP:BLPNAME. Just putting it in the infobox over and over again is not going to make you any friends and will eventually get you in trouble. So take it easy and let us help you :-) Welcome to Wikipedia. It has hundreds of pages of rules. While you are learning the many rules, I'd be happy to help you find your way around and stay out of trouble. Let me know what you need and how I can help. Best, -- — Keithbob • Talk • 23:27, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

It's now common knowledge that he is married. He talks about it frequently on television and radio. I also know him personally, and it's no secret. After reading over countless other Wikipedia pages, I can see that it is hardly common practice to cite sources that someone is married. It is also fairly common to see the names of spouses on celebrity pages even if the spouse is not "famous". Pepperchovy (talk) 22:44, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi thanks for your reply. I appreciate your response, point of view and the logic of your response. Unfortunately Wikipedia is a universe all its own and its governed by a multitude of policies and guidelines. You'll learn them as you go along and I and others will help you too ! However, just because something is done one way on another WP article is not a reason to continue that on this or any other article. Schiff is a contentious article and also a BLP. According to WP:BLP anything challenged by another editor must be sourced before its put back in the article. Also our personal knowledge through our experience, training or education is not valid on WP. We just summarize reliable secondary sources per WP:RS and WP:V. I'm not saying its not true or that its a secret but this is the way we collaborate as a huge group to create an encyclopedia. A little awkward at first but it works in the long run. PS regarding his wife's name, we avoid personal names of people that are not famous per WP:BLPNAME and WP:PRIVACY. Thanks for you patience and participation! Cheers! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 00:32, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

You're really pissing me off. I'm glad you appreciate my point of view, but I don't appreciate the meaningless wikipedia mission you seem to be on. I'm updating Peter's page as a favor to him (asked directly by him). I put it in a different category. Common knowledge is common knowledge. Maybe someone who knows nothing about him shoudn't consider themself wiki-sheriff of his page. Anybody who follows Peter's work somewhat regularly knows he was married. The ridiculous and petty discrepancies you have are evident nowhere else on wikipedia or the rest of his page. Go do something important and stop being a douche. Pepperchovy (talk) 17:21, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

As I've mentioned so called "common knowledge" and "hey, I'm friends with Peter" are not an accepted basis for content at this encyclopedia. Also, Wikipedia is a place of collaboration and we welcome new editors, as I have tried to welcome you. But if you insist on having it your way instead being open to learning, cooperating and collaborating with others (and then on top of that attacking me), then you may find your editing privileges curtailed by an administrator as disruptive behavior, personal attacks WP:NPA and incivility WP:CIVIL are not tolerated here. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 17:50, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

PS. Thanks for attempting to provide a source to support the text for Schiff and his wife, but unfortunately this photo [1] does not qualify as it is not a published photo, that ID's the woman, says they are still married etc. If you can find a magazine, book or news report that would suffice as a good source to at least say that he is married and has a wife. I don't think her name is needed nor in compliance with WP:PRIVACY but we can discuss that when a source is found. Thanks. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 18:04, 19 December 2012 (UTC)