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Dubious

There's a note about Sushruta's knowledge of surgery being dubious. Try looking at the Sushruta Samhita. :) There are diagrams of more than 120 surgical instruments. Back in those days, people figured it out because of war. They also figured out natural anesthesias and how to prep an area for surgery — removing arrows, healing war wounds, accidents, whatever. Perhaps moderns consider it crude by todays standards — that would be how moderns call it. But people were able to figure out things in ancient times — out of necessity. Even modern european medicine — a few centuries ago — was in some sense born out of studies of ancient medicines. Look into the history of medicine if you're doubtful. Then again, I have see no one yet do a history of medicine so it will be difficult to find but the info is out there.

Practice vs Drugs

This gives primary meaning as "the science and art of healing", and Medication as the drugs which are used as medicine. However, Wiktionary [[1]] has #1 as the drugs, #2 as "treatment or cure", #3 as "The study of the cause, diagnosis, prognosis and treatment of disease or illness" and #4 as "The profession of physicians, surgeons and related specialisms; those who practice medicine". So this article has wiktionary's #3 and #4 dealed here, but #1 in a different article. Feels somehow odd. 82.141.119.188 (talk) 22:40, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh, just noticed that "Medication" actually redirects to Pharmaceutical drug. Oh, nice. 82.141.119.188 (talk) 22:42, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why "ugh"? --75.92.61.32 (talk) 02:18, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Scope of article

Is this article only about "human medicine" (note: that link redirects here), i.e., the healing of human beings? And is the division between human medicine and veterinary medicine a deliberate editorial decision?

If so, what does this say about the usage of the term "non-human animal" to mean regular animals, i.e., when anyone other than a biologist is talking? --Uncle Ed (talk) 19:16, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Pharmakeia is the Greek word for Medicine

pharmakeia is the Greek word for medicine and the modern transliteration of Pharmakeia is Pharmacia which is a word used in many places of the world in place of the word medicine. I believe this should be added to the article to help people find the information they seek on the internet. 2602:306:C518:62C0:1E75:8FF:FEBB:2125 (talk) 14:24, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the Greek wikipedia names their medicine article as Ιατρική. Pharmakeia is too much associated with pharmacy in the modern language, English or any other (though they might be synonymous at some time in the old past). Materialscientist (talk) 22:30, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pharmakeia is the word we get pharmaceutical from and means medicine. 2602:306:C518:62C0:1E75:8FF:FEBB:2125 (talk) 23:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Only in the meaning of "drug", "pharmacy", not as the more general field of science (medicine). Materialscientist (talk) 23:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Material Scientist, could you please transliterate your Greek word Ιατρική? 2602:306:C518:62C0:1E75:8FF:FEBB:2125 (talk) 23:05, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Something like iatriki (stress on the last syllabus). Materialscientist (talk) 23:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to Google Translator, Materialscientist's Greek word Ιατρική means "medicine" in English. Here's the proof. The list that contains possible changes doesn't even contain the word "pharmacy"! --BScMScMD (talk) 23:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

φαρμακεια or pharmakeia translates out in modern Greek on the Google translator as "pharmacies"... These word forms are still the origen of the English words Pharmaceutical, Pharmacy, Pharmaceuticalist, Pharmaceuticalism, Pharmacists, Pharmacopia etc.. A pharmacy is of course the dispenser or medicines or pharmaceuticals. The modern transliteration Pharmacia is used in many places of the world and means medicine or pharmaceuticals. 2602:306:C518:62C0:1E75:8FF:FEBB:2125 (talk) 00:34, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

φαρμακος or Pharmakos is a pharma word and it translates out as medicine in the Google translator. Here is the proof 2602:306:C518:62C0:1E75:8FF:FEBB:2125 (talk) 00:47, 18 July 2012 (UTC) Also φαρμακον is a pharma word and translates out as medicine. 2602:306:C518:62C0:1E75:8FF:FEBB:2125 (talk) 00:48, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The word medicine means both the science of healing and a drug; this article covers the former topic. Materialscientist (talk) 01:05, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Material Scientist! Of course this so called "science of healing" utilizes drugs or pharmaceuticals. I have a question for you. What do you know about the use of Petro chemicals in the production of pharmaceuticals and can you point me to wikipedia articles on this subject? I have noticed that pharmaceutical articles on Wikipedia conspicuously lack any information on how these various drugs are synthesized. 2602:306:C518:62C0:F4B0:8B17:484D:B943 (talk) 04:17, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Material Scientist.... Please what do you know about how pharmaceuticals are synthesized all the way down to the basic root chemicals? Especially pharmaceuticals used by psychiatrists? 2602:306:C518:62C0:1C66:AFF5:5F43:10F3 (talk) 02:28, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative medicine article discussion to restore MEDRS and NPOV content and sources such as Annals of New York Academy of Sciences and Journal of Academic Medicine

A discussion to restore the first 14 sources of this version, including Annals of New York Academy of Sciences, Journal of Academic Medicine, etc., to the Alternative medicine article is now going on here. ParkSehJik (talk) 02:57, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Request for new list

We have a List of diseases and a List of disorders, so I suggest that we also have (and this could be mentioned in the "See also" section a "List of medicines". ACEOREVIVED (talk) 11:01, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]