Talk:Milli Vanilli

I have done a little research and it seems that Milli Vanilli does NOT mean "positive energy" in Turkish.

see here

or just google groups search for MV in soc.culture.turkish

Ensiform 14:08, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Well, could it just be that the spelling is off? Everyking 19:47, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Did you know that Girl You Know It's True is NOT original?

This might give a nice spice on the article. :-) The song originates indeed from another group called NUMARX (gladly I have those myself, by far not that easy to get these days), published in 1987 and covered by Mr Farian in 1988. 80.129.77.17 03:26, 4 August 2005 (UTC) -andy

Unclear sentence

"They are infamous for being the only recording act to have their Grammy Award stripped from them in 1990 after it was revealed that they had not been involved in the creation of their breakthrough album, Girl You Know It's True, and instead had simply appeared on the album cover, and had lip-synched to pre-recorded studio singers in music videos and in concert."

Now I don't know anything about the Grammy Awards or this group, however, this sentence needs to be rewritten in a clearer fashion by someone who knows the story. Right now it is unclear where the 'famous' part of the sentence stops. Are they the only recording act to have a Grammy stripped from them? Or the only recording act to have a Grammy stripped from them in 1990? Or..?? -SCEhardT 05:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

The opening paragraph has been retooled for clarity and style. - Chadbryant 11:48, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Work needed

I don't have time right now, but someone needs to go through this article and fix a few things (such as headings) to conform with style guidelines & NPOV (particularly the section entitled "Tragic Epilogue")

Stellertony the Bookcrosser 09:06, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Did that. Article should be much cleaner now.--み使い Mitsukai 16:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I've added a whole lotta more stuff about the various refund lawsuits that emerged after the ruse was uncovered. However, i've just removed this chunk:

At any given time, several dozen copies of the American CDs are available on eBay, and they usually sell for more than one would make by accepting the refund offer.

There are rumors to the effect that it is legally impossible for Arista to reissue Milli Vanilli CDs in the USA. Supposedly one out-of-court settlement (with the original singers) forbids the company from selling discs with Rob & Fab's image on the packaging, while another settlement (with Rob & Fab themselves) forbids the company from selling discs without their image. The discs have been re-released outside the USA, with the duo's picture on them.

Can anyone verify any of this this? I mainly see two problems with the deleted text. 1) I can't see how Girl You Know it's True (GYKIT) could be reissued if the original tapes have been deleted. 2) The deadline for refunds on GYKIT and related Milli Vanilli stuff expired over 12 years ago. In saying this, why would want to make an eBay profit on a refund which can no longer be claimed? In short, the deleted text defies logic. - Thanks, Hoshie | 08:17, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

• Plus the second claim about the two conflicting settlements is just too ironic to be true. Real life doesn't operate like that at all. Well deleted, says I. --Agamemnon2 07:40, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Haha, then you don't know much about real life...

• • Can anyone tell if there is a videoclip made for the Rob & Fab's single "We Can Get It On"; I could swear that I've seen it during that time. But I haven't found any reference to it in the article. Maybe I had mixed memories, LOL.

A bit _too_ gentle

The intro currently says this:

Like many manufactured groups of the era, such as C&C Music Factory, none of the live performances were actually sung, because the vocals were provided by studio artists. Due to confusion resulting from this, they had their Grammy award for Best New Artist 1990 revoked.

This is about the gentlest description of the Milli Vanilli case I've ever heard. "Confusion"? Didn't they actually claim they were singing until the incident in question?

And the statement in the text -- that their live performances were recordings by studio artists -- would only make sense if their non-live recordings were also by studio artists (if they could sing in studio but not live, why not just play their own studio recordings?). So the article is really stating that they never sang at all, which it should do more directly. --Saforrest 00:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Exactly what I was thinking. SandwichHat 04:04, 5 June 2006 (UTC)