Talk:Ann Coulter
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Conservative criticism of Coulter - where?
[www.coulterwatch.org] made by American conservatives against Coulter. --66.234.203.32 18:37, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- I am unable to find the site. Are you sure it isn't hyphenated or something? My browser is returning a 404. Kasreyn 18:40, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
[www.coulterwatch.com] [1]
Transsexual?
Since there seems to be an astonishingly large number of sites claiming Coulter is a transsexual (run a search anywhere - you'll immediately see what I mean), I felt a sub-section should be added at least mentioning this possibility.
I tried my hardest to stress that most of these speculations are Internet-based and that there was no evidence to support their claims. I feel the section should be included, however I do not want the reader going away thinking Coulter is a transsexual, only that there are a large number of rumors suggesting this.
I maintain that this section should remain in the article, if only because there are a relatively large number of sites mentioning this possibility in regards to Ms. Coulter compared to other celebrities - however, if there are any NPOV issues with specific wording or anything else in this section, or if someone feels it can be cleaned up, please feel free to do so; however I ask that the section be kept no matter what changes are made.
By the way, I see absolutely nothing wrong with gender reassignment surgery, in case anyone wondered. ChildOfTheMoon83 03:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- I really don't feel that internet rumor and speculation on such an offensive subject is relevant or notable, no matter how widespread the rumor. Kasreyn 05:01, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Moonie, since you yourself point out there is absolutely no credible evidence for it, if the rumor were to be mentioned at all, why would you think it deserves an entire section? In the section you added, you also created a whole bunch of original research in violation of policy which I'm glad to see someone else had the good sense to remove. Good job, trying to fill it up, though. Next, why don't you go ahead and set up the "George Bush IQ" controversy section? I'm sure there are even more websites that mention that. Listen, I'm going to WP:AGF and believe that rather than you knowing the rumor is a garbage insult and were simply attempting to have it promininently included that you are really just an idiot. And please return the favor and assume good faith me with that I don't mean that as an insult. I see absolutely nothing wrong with being mentally retarded in case anyone wondered. Lawyer2b 13:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- C'mon now, L2b. No need for personal remarks, no matter how uninsulting you meant them. If anything, it still violates WP:CIVIL. Let's rise above this. Thanks. --You Know Who (Dark Mark) 14:07, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- You're right, I apologize to User:ChildOfTheMoon83. Lawyer2b 14:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- C'mon now, L2b. No need for personal remarks, no matter how uninsulting you meant them. If anything, it still violates WP:CIVIL. Let's rise above this. Thanks. --You Know Who (Dark Mark) 14:07, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Moonie, since you yourself point out there is absolutely no credible evidence for it, if the rumor were to be mentioned at all, why would you think it deserves an entire section? In the section you added, you also created a whole bunch of original research in violation of policy which I'm glad to see someone else had the good sense to remove. Good job, trying to fill it up, though. Next, why don't you go ahead and set up the "George Bush IQ" controversy section? I'm sure there are even more websites that mention that. Listen, I'm going to WP:AGF and believe that rather than you knowing the rumor is a garbage insult and were simply attempting to have it promininently included that you are really just an idiot. And please return the favor and assume good faith me with that I don't mean that as an insult. I see absolutely nothing wrong with being mentally retarded in case anyone wondered. Lawyer2b 13:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Inappropriate Photo
Could someone change the main photo to something more appropriate? Using the image from the cover of her Slander book looks ridiculous and unprofessional. That photo belongs in the section dedicated to the book, not in the main Ann Coulter page. How about a simple picture of Ann and Ann alone? Sloopydrew 10:40, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Thats what she is know for, a writer. It is not anymore out of line as other authors on wiki. Dominick (TALK) 12:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
She's known far less for her writing than she is for her varied comments made on different television programs, during speeches, and as a talking head. Only a small subset of people known her first and foremost as a writer. Regardless, the entry is for Ann Coulter, not Slander and should reflect as much.--Sloopydrew 21:41, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Latest News
Could we please add the latest news story where Ann Coulter is criticizing 9/11 widows? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/06/07/entertainment/e070803D31.DTL
"Constitutional" lawyer
Removed this descriptive term. There is no such thing officially recognized as a "constitutional lawyer." Also, the article only briefly mentions her law degree and makes no mention of specific studies in constitutional law. Wjbean 22:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Changed Some Stuff
Got rid of the controversial statement stating her books were false just because of a citation.
To any admins reading this, we need an sprotect.
For some reason we're awash in anon vandalism. I can't even do a compare, by the time I'm done figuring out what I need to fix more vandalism has been added. There are half a dozen different anons vandalizing at once. Kasreyn 23:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- That's an easy one. Look what the cunt's done now: Anti-liberal US writer calls 9/11 widows "witches". --Nelson Ricardo 19:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Reverted back to LV
Notable information had been removed (such as the fact that she is a bestselling author), summary information about her nature as a polemecist was blanked, and POV attacks were missed by other editors. I'm going by the admonition to be bold on this one. Kasreyn 23:40, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
NPOV
I added NPOV to this article. Why is it that FOX News seems to be a target of choice? This article is about Ann Coulter, not FOX News. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.79.43.137 (talk • contribs) .
- I don't understand what you mean. FOX News is mentioned only in the context that they host Coulter. If you wonder why few media outlets other than FOX are mentioned, it's easy to explain. FOX is just about the only media outlet that will still touch her. Most won't publish her or give her airtime. Fortunately for Coulter, FOX is far enough to the right to consider her acceptable, for now. Kasreyn 00:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- I removed the NPOV tag. I just read the article for the first time and didn't find any problems with the mentions of Fox news. Please illuminate us on your problem more before adding it back in. -Quasipalm 00:16, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
9/11 Widows
This section is overly long. I don't feel it's notable enough to warrant the level of detail it's been given. Perhaps a trim back to simply the main two or three lines of the quote (regarding "enjoying their husbands' deaths" etc.) The entire article should not be turned into a "look what Coulter's done now" noticeboard every time she says something astonishingly foul. We can't afford to, because she does so practically every day. New comments must be kept in proportion to the old.
P.S. Admins, we need sprotect now! Kasreyn 00:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- It's hard to say since it just happened, but I believe that in a few weeks, we'll look at this and see the coverage is warranted. --kizzle 00:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- As in, you feel this one's gonna blow up in her face as bad as the crack about calling for the death of an Associate Justice did? Good thing I don't watch TV, I can avoid all the meaningless furor... Kasreyn 00:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I have changed the name given to the ladies from the "Jersey Girls" that did not have a citation to the name Ann gave them: "The Witches of New Brunswick", which has a citation. I used the same article from CNN as the Clinton quote later in the section. The two footnotes are 11 and 14... I'm not sure how but is there any way to combine the two footnotes, as they are the same? User:StoopidEmu 05:33, 2006-06-08 (UTC)
StoopidEmu, I removed the reference to "The Witches of New Brunswick" altogether. The section already covers the relevant quotation from the book, and I'm not thrilled with including the second quotation in that section either. This article is already too big - if we stopped to include every outrageous remark that Coulter has made, we'd break the web. lesmana 09:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Coulter's remarks are an important insight into her thought process. BTW how does Clinton criticism appear here. This is about Coulter and her ridiculous comments. She is an outrage and a bully. She is a chickenhawk who has never been held accountable for anything she has said or done. Support of her shows you condone her behavior.
- I think this is notable...maybe even her worst episode yet. I saw her repeating the same on Tucker Carlson. And, in this case Ann was not "joking". She was asked in a very straightforward manner about her comments and she stood by them unflinchingly. There was no laughing from either side or humorous feel to the piece. The controversies section is getting long, but I guess controversy is her thing. I think we could expand on the bibliography a little, I can't tell what the books are about and how they were received. There should also be something about her numerous relationships, especially considering her complaints about premarital and homosexual sex and her wearing that cross all the time. Justforasecond 19:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Coulter suspected of felonious voter fraud in Florida
Here's my writeup with up to date information. I guess some of it could be merged with the previous information:
Coulter suspected of felonious voter fraud in Florida It is claimed that Coulter had registered to vote using her Palm Beach Realtor's address while waiting to complete the purchase of her $1.8m home. In February it is claimed by a poll worker that she illegally cast a vote after being told that she was in the wrong voting district. She became belligerent and still cast her vote.
She also claims to live in New York City but records from New Canaan, CT show she was registered there and cast an absentee ballot in 2004 the same time.
In response on the Fox News Show "Hannity & Colmes" on June 6, 2006 she called all the reporters who wrote about the case in Palm Beach and Palm Beach Election Supervisor Arthur Anderson "retarded" and "I think the syphilis has gone to their brains".
Coulter has hired a criminal defence attorney to defend her in the Palm Beach case.
Refs: http://www.nydailynews.com/06-08-2006/news/gossip/story/424613p-358230c.html http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198549,00.html
--Costoa 13:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Attire
If she's a conservative, why does she dress so skankily? Also, does her being a blonde explain why she has no idea what's what in our country? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 162.90.97.254 (talk • contribs) 12:41, June 8, 2006.
- My thoughts exactly about her attire. She does not exemplify modesty. --Facto 20:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Kathy Griffin was on the Today show this week after Coulter, asked why Coulter was wearing a cocktail dress at 7am. Gzuckier 20:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)