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al-Sheikh Maqsoud captured by Syrian Army

Aleppo offensive gives it last news that sheikh maqsud and al jbanat captured by Syrian Army: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleppo_offensive_(October%E2%80%93December_2013)78.191.187.188 (talk) 12:34, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They've captured a few blocks, not the whole neighbourhood. - ☣Tourbillon ^A ? 19:29, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bani Zeid

Most of Bani Zeid area in SAA control, per [1].--HCPUNXKID (talk) 18:45, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Coloring Bani Zaid red is nonsense how can a district be controlled by the army when the northern entry is controlled by rebels, the western entry also controlled by rebels, the eastern entry controlled by the kurdish forces and the southern entry unclear without being besieged? You can make an arrow towards Bani Zaid and leave it unclear but coloring it red is too much --Amedjay (talk) 22:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Amedjay, your point would have some merit if the shadings on this map were accurate. We really don't know what the hell is going on or who controls what.

1. Sheikh Maqsood is not fully Kurdish controlled. If you look at previous (reputable) articles people have posted, you will see that the Syrian army controls at least some part of it (to what extent, we really don't know). Why Sheikh Maqsood isn't colored olive to reflect this, and still remains yellow, is beyond me.

2. Again, we really don't know that the western section is actually controlled by the rebels (or if the east is controlled by the Kurds as I mentioned previously)- this map is inaccurate and there is very little info coming out of Aleppo from reputable sources.

3. Just because a section of the map is colored olive does not mean that one group does not have safe access to adjacent neighborhoods. It is completely plausible that a neighborhood is divided evenly between two sides, the fighting isn't necessarily fluidly spread throughout an entire neighborhood.

Unless you know someone in Aleppo who is willing to travel around and check the accuracy of this map, all we have to go off of are articles from reputable websites like Al-Monitor. Like I've repeated so many times, the truth is no one knows what the hell is going on over there or who controls what. Taking this map as the truth and basing your arguments on its contents is quite frankly moronic. Al-Monitor states that the Syrian army controls much of Bani Zeid, so this is what we will show on the map to reflect this reality. If you have any actual proof to indicate otherwise, you are free to post it and we can adjust the map accordingly. Hope this helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.117.88.4 (talk) 02:53, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Compromise proposal, color Bani Zeid red with the western and northern edges of the district that border rebel territory as contested. EkoGraf (talk) 03:45, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agree.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 17:59, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the SAA "holds" anything in Bani Zaid. I've seen FSA footage as of about 4-5 days ago at Blleramoun circle. I know the SAA has been pushing N and W from that part of the city for a while, so it's possible they have pushed into that area, but to say they hold or control it is probably inaccurate unless someone can prove otherwise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.181.202.62 (talk) 05:46, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First, the Blleramoun district is not the same district as Bani Zaid, any map will show you that. Second, Youtube videos are not accepted as sources on Wikipedia. Wikipedia goes with what news sources say, and this one says they hold much of it. Third, our personal opinions are also not accepted by Wikipedia. So, like I proposed the compromise solution, color it red with the western and northern edges contested.EkoGraf (talk) 16:20, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I couldnt expressed it better. This is (still, I hope) an encyclopaedia, not a blog where to pour our personal opinions and try to made them look as facts.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 18:07, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

New Aleppo map from SyrianPerspective

As of 2014-01-12: [2]. Comes from a pro-regime source of course, but the maps there in the past have been relatively accurate. It shows some recent offensives that are not shown on the current map. Also, interesting that it now shows no PYD presence at all, whereas their last map from October did have a yellow-colored PYD section. Esn (talk) 06:53, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Probably PYD are concentrated on fights in Nortern Syria. They don't have chance to control part of Allepo when conflict ended. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.84.86.14 (talk) 15:00, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kafar Hamra , Sheikh Said

There is clashes in Kafr Hamra: http://syriahr.com/en/index.php?option=com_news&nid=1319&Itemid=2&task=displaynews#.UtUOUPRdXmp 178.240.40.162 (talk) 10:48, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is also clashes in Sheikh Said: http://www.petercliffordonline.com/syria-news-3/178.240.40.162 (talk) 10:53, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Te east area of the city is mostly contested as per the news agencies. the current map should be totally change.SAA is advancing to the north too. albarood —Preceding undated comment added 06:15, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also the SAA reached the edge of the Marje as they also took Shikh Lutfi north west of Aziza (much of the bottom right corner should become red). Then the top right corner should show Shiekh Zayat which is also now red next to Ard Alhamra on the template page (much of that area to east is red now though this map isn't big enough to include). Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.224.15.164 (talk) 00:24, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Marjeh and Myassar

Both districts (or at least parts of both districts) should be marked as contested as the SAA has begun a push into them, as per opposition sources ^[1]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.110.7 (talk) 17:15, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. The land Between Aziza and Marjeh is called Baloura (west of Airport). That land is now fully under the control of the SAA. Marjeh is a small district but this map assigned the larger plain next to it as part of it! MY MAP 25 JAN 2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.224.15.164 (talk) 21:27, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Karam Al Qasr under SAA control, source and map - http://live.aljazeera.com/Event/Syria_Live_Blog/103108577 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.240.103.2 (talk) 16:25, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

^ https://twitter.com/ced_lab/status/426761948844142592

[1] ttps://twitter.com/ced_lab/status/426761948844142592

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