Talk:Plato's five regimes

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Please provide specific references to the original platonic source(s) 93.162.99.126 (talk) 19:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oligarchy

"Oligarchy then degenerates into democracy where freedom is the supreme good but freedom is also slavery." This certainly needs clarification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.154.28.197 (talk) 15:47, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Plato is looking for a wise leader. He offers five regimes by way of showing none are wise choices, each is worse than the last.

Oligarchs are wealthy and their children are spoiled, enslaved by desire for more licentious liberty, they become easily jaded, there is no thought of doing whats wise only what is pleasurable (a bit of a knock on the hedonists who claimed that true pleasure came from doing what was best; ie supreme good). Finally the few remaining decent people get fed up and call for the rule of a strong man to restore law and order. What they get is a tyrant and that's when the people get wise, become by means of education, and experience statesmen for whom what they know is what they do and what they do is wise.Metaphysical Engineering (talk) 22:39, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]