Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Centre for Excellence

National Centre for Excellence

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No indication of notability, or what makes it stand out from other educational institutions. Yes, I know that all high schools can be notable, but this article as it stands does not demonstrate that. Primefac (talk) 14:56, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The consensus is not that high schools (more properly secondary education institutions) "can" be notable, but rather that they almost always are. This school is pre-school to XII standard, which would make it the equivalent of an American K-12 school. The level of coverage easily found in national media should be sufficient to prove notability, but keep in mind the vast majority of Indian media is not readily available online, and often is not in English. Local and regional (likely non-English) sources are near certain to exist in addition to what can be found online with little effort. Such sources are the core to the idea that American high schools are notable, so to delete an Indian school because such sources can not be found in 2 minutes of Googling would smack of systematic bias. Pinging @Cutest Penguin: who accepted this at AfC for further input. --ThaddeusB (talk) 19:11, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The implication that I recklessly throw out AfD's without first considering things like WP:INDAFD is not warranted. I actually discussed this with CutestPenguin earlier today (though I believe her exact words regarding this AfD were "good luck"). However, during that discussion she was unable to convince me that the school was notable (and I was unable to convince myself).

As a side note, the top stories in your link above do not talk about this National Centre for Excellence (except for one name drop), something I noticed when I did my own search for more sources and is probably one of the unfortunate side-effects of having a relatively common name. Primefac (talk) 20:39, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My comments are intended as a discussion of the subject's notability, not a judgement of you. (I always ping AfC acceptors if they are active.) Sorry if you took them otherwise... Thanks for pointing out INDAFD, which I was actually unaware of. Using one of the suggested links there gives a much clearer picture of notability. I do not believe we have deleted a single US high school is a long time, so my comments about systematic bias remain valid. --ThaddeusB (talk) 21:33, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, INDAFD states "Schools offering Nursery— Class XII are almost certainly notable", which is what this subject is. --ThaddeusB (talk) 21:35, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:12, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:12, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @Primefac: At what ground you are saying that this school is not notable? Well, according to Wikipedia all high schools can be notable and this article can be kept as per NSCHOOL and NSH which say, Articles on high schools and secondary schools, with rare exceptions, have been kept when nominated at Articles for Deletion except where they fail verifiability. If the verifiability is the reason behind your nomination then there are several reliable resources on the internet that can tell you that it is notable as well as exist physically; please have a look at this TOI article, CBSE Affiliation confirmation and another TOI article published in the newspaper that proves that this school is notable. I'm not sure if it can be considered to reliable but the facts and information can be verified from here. Cheers! — CutestPenguin^Hangout 06:24, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment -The Google search results coming up with school name as keyword are not really related to the school anyway. They are talking some other thing about. If we are here to establish GNG or ORG standard, then the subject beyond any doubt falls flat on those grounds. The school can only be proved to be exist by few passing mentions in independent, reliable sources.

Make it straight. If we go by WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, #2, -then it should be kept and if ORG, -then deleted. What are we on? Anupmehra -Let's talk! 11:29, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Did you see my second link which turns up articles such "School shuts shop" that are clearly about the school itself, as opposed to the many about students and such? This coverage would certainly to sufficient to "keep" an article about an American high school. To enforce higher standards on an Indian school (whose best sources probably can't be found online) would be systematic bias. --ThaddeusB (talk) 15:41, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey those articles are of another school called National Center for Excellence in sarjapur road and not in Malleshpalaya.